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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 23, 2015 22:36:38 GMT -5
Keith. The Remington ultimate is built on a 40x target action.. Copied down to the T... Solid bottom action. Drilled and tapped on the left side for a sight block too... FML, a switch barrel waiting to happen. I've been thinking about selling my 3-barrel, fast twist, Renegade to buy another 700ML so I could still have an open ignition gun for western hunts but I might buy one of these first and make it a switch barrel .40/.50 I had the hots for a switch barrel bolt gun many moons ago. Spent a big chunk of change on one too. Having to to switch out scopes or re zero sort of took some of the thrill out of it, i wound up up with a TC contender with a slew full of barrels with dedicated scopes and mounts. Worked really well and was much cheaper than setting up the switch barrel 700
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 23, 2015 22:30:43 GMT -5
Keith. The Remington ultimate is built on a 40x target action.. Copied down to the T... Solid bottom action. Drilled and tapped on the left side for a sight block too.. Remington could have saved at least $100.00 per gun if they ordered the correct stock for it instead of a BDL stock.. The ADL would have made for a much cleaner rifle with out the floor plate.. I know they say it was designed to hold some extra priming cases but truth be known it was an ordering mistake on one of the engineers. I could get 10 cases out of my pocket faster than someone can get one out of this so-called storage compartment.. Plus the storage compartment only holds the case. Does not hold a billet or powder so you are still needing another method to carry and store these two items.. I prefer to keep all three of those in the same pocket.... Jeff.. I'm with you on the BDL floor plate. While that may seem cool and gee wiz. In practicality it seems sorta meh. i would probably opt to retro fit it so it held a single speed loader. Maybe some sort of but cuff for the modules. That way you always have at least on extra shot on board case you forget the pocket full of reloads or get separated from your filed pack or possibles bag.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 23, 2015 21:45:34 GMT -5
That policy keeps it simple! I thought so. about the only regs they were anal about were Hunter orange requirements. Dog hunting and no scopes of any kind on pistols. they came down on dog hunters..would write a ticket in a heartbeat on orange and had a fixation about making sure you did not have a scope on a pistol. The he scopes on a pistol I never really understood. You could hunt with a 6 shot 4" .357 mad but could not hunt with a scoped TC in 7x30 waters. Now if you ask most pistol people that know anything about pistols which would be more accurate and give you the best chance at a clean harvest.. Most of the nods would go to the 7x30 waters. At at least they seem to learn the errors of thier ways.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 23, 2015 15:26:48 GMT -5
I lived in Alabama back in the day and if it brown it was down and if it moved it needed killing. Those were about the only two rules that I can remember.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 23, 2015 14:28:20 GMT -5
Yes, you are right if you hunt on a WMA (Wild Management Area). But private land in Alabama or National forest land you can use whatever you want as long as its legal. Your probably right as all of my research into hunting AL for hogs has been for Black Warrior and Bankhead.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 23, 2015 14:27:10 GMT -5
See page 85 of the link you provided.
FERAL SWINE & COYOTE : Open during any other legal WMA Hunting Season using weapons and ammunition approved for those hunts (NO DOGS ALLOWED) (DAYLIGHT HOURS ONLY).
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 23, 2015 14:07:49 GMT -5
I think you have incorrect information. There is no closed season for hogs in Alabama, but its considered a game animal. I can't see the state telling you you have to shoot a hog with a turkey load because its turkey season. I looked in the regs as well as live in Alabama and have never heard of that. www.outdooralabama.com/sites/default/files/2014-15%20Complete%20Reg%20Book%20LE%201st%20proof%20%2011-13-14.pdfOnly way you will run into a problem is if you have a turkey call and a large caliber rifle. If the season is open, you have to use whatever the legal caliber is for the game you're hunting. Talked with MAtt Brock over district 1 and Black Warrior. He confirmed what I had read that YES when Turkey Season rolls in you are restricted to .40 Cal or smaller muzzleloaders. Bows, Handguns and 22 Rimfire ammo. Basically anything that is legal for Turkey season.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 21, 2015 22:55:43 GMT -5
Opinion? Yep!
I would say it's comparable to going after elk with a .243.
Will it work? Sure! Has it worked? most defiantly .
But are there better bullets and better tools for the job? the answer is most defiantly YES!
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 21, 2015 22:29:21 GMT -5
Sounds like a good time to ditch the accutrigger and get a good trigger.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 21, 2015 21:54:38 GMT -5
I've given a lot of thought to this.
I can dial up 3min which is about 2.5 inches over my zero at 100 yards.
With that zero I can hold just a tad high at 150 and about at the spine for a 200 yard shot.
gonna have to prove that theory on the bench but it seems like that is about right. As well as its shooing and the fact I have a good solid zero plus what you said about the looking through the center of the scope. I just don't think I am going to mess with something that is not broke.
i have a savage MLII that I am thinking about buying the same scope and putting a .20 base on and using that for a true dial in long range set up.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 20, 2015 16:24:07 GMT -5
Finally was able to get in touch with Leupold. After being number 29th in the cue. God the people at Leupold are the best at customer service. I will never buy any other scope ever.
The first person I talked to knew exactly how to address my problem. Knew what I was saying and knew the solution.
His solution was pretty much what 7mm freak and Ron suggested. Shim the base up at the rear the thickness of a beer can. He said that should get me another 20 MOA.
Then he asked if I was ready for my FREE CDS dial. All he needed was the serial number and my load data and environment conditions and he would get my free one out.
I paid $425 NIB for this scope last year. They have gone up to about $499. VERY MUCH WORTH the price I paid.
Im thinking about getting another one. PErhaps the HOG scope?
The Firedot was fun to play with this season. I think for most deer hunting situations its not going to be a must need as even on its lowest setting its still pretty bright right at legal shooting hours. I think it will really shine on dark coloured game such as Hog and Black Bear.
I did experiment around with a Green Flash light and found that it makes a really cool poor mans night vision scope.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 19, 2015 6:09:06 GMT -5
I saw where Alabama Hog hunting thar you can shoot a .40 cal or smaller During the turkey season, I'm sorta leaning towards one so I can hunt there during turkey season as you are restricted to only turkey guns for hogs. Turkey guns for hogs? I asked the Alabama division of wildlife (or whatever they are called) for clarification, they habe some sort of law that you have to use whatever weapon is legal for the season you are in. For instance during the deer archery season you can only hunt pigs with a bow. Likewise during turkey season you are restricted to shotguns $4 shot or smaller. .40 cal muzzleloaders or smaller and handguns, strangely enough 22 rim fire is legal for turkeys so it seems a lot of people opt for 22 mag for hogs. personally I think a bow is my best answer for now but leaning towards a .40 cal of some type.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 18, 2015 23:14:19 GMT -5
I saw where Alabama Hog hunting thar you can shoot a .40 cal or smaller During the turkey season,
I'm sorta leaning towards one so I can hunt there during turkey season as you are restricted to only turkey guns for hogs.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 18, 2015 23:05:18 GMT -5
I'm tried several loads out on this gun and they all shoot as good as I can shoot them . Very marginal shifts in POI. I feel like I could drop any load down its barrel and go hunting with it.
I would like to wring out this CDS system and get dead nuts with it up to 200 yards which is my self imposed upper limits.
Before I installed the CDS scope I had a VX1 on it. Sighted it in 3 inches above zero at 100 yards. I was pretty much dead nuts at 150 and about 5 inches low at 200.
I could go back to that but would really like to have a dead on zero at 100 yards. I'm thinking the dead on zero at 100 yards would be better for dispatching smaller game such as Beaver or bobcats.
I also want to hunt wild boar and would rather head shoot them than connect for a heart lung shot. The thought of tracking a wounded hog at night does not do it for me, I would rather pop and drop the piggie right there.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 18, 2015 22:50:52 GMT -5
What gun is this on? Can you install a 20moa base to gain elevation adj. No. It's on a CVA Optima V2 with Medium 30MM DNZ ring/base.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 18, 2015 22:29:19 GMT -5
i bought a VXR 3x9 Firedot with the .30mm tube.
I did not have time to totally play with the system as hunting season was rapidly approaching . So I sighted it dead nuts at 100 yards . Luckily all,of my shots were close this season as I was set up mainly for bow hunting.
Fast forward to today. Shot it at 100 yards and decide to play with the dial. 3min is equal to 12 clicks. It only brought it up 2 inches at 100 yards with a 100 yard zero.
pronlem I am facing is I can only go up to 6min on the dial which is 22 clicks and then I top out. Dial,will not move past there.
i wanted to get a CDS custom dial for my load but if all I have is 22 clicks available to me what's the point? 22clicks or 6min is only going to get me about 5.5 inches of elevation change. Give or take.
so am I wasting my time and money with this scope? I really did not want a 2inch holdover at 100 yards but could do it if neccesary.
BTW my load is .50 cal MMP Orange with 300 Gr Sierra .458 bullets. 100 GR BH209 by volume.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 10, 2015 12:02:31 GMT -5
My first three shots sandbagged for groups at 100 yards. The varnish came out the barrel and I see no issues with the bore, it shoots well. Not sure why the varnished "packing grease" would differ in your barrel from mine, but I appear to have a good barrel, that is not finicky, is easy to load, and shoots consistent groups. My only negative is the height combination for the fixed sights. Have an old "new in box" Lyman 57 that I tried, and am tempted, but believe I'd be happier with a more compact receiver sight for hunting. Could not locate any spare rear bases at the shop, so one was placed on order. When it comes in, the bottom of the Williams and the top of the base will be machined flat to mate and mount at the corrected height. If that doesn't work out as I'd like, will call buddy in TX and have him send me up one of his sights. Later That's a nice group! WOW
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 9, 2015 16:22:26 GMT -5
Is this basically the same idea as the old Savage 10ML ,except for using black powder substitute? I have one, and I see it as more of an improvement on the old defunct Remington, being more up to speed with the custom Ultimate Rifle, but at a much lower production cost. I don't see it as a Remington take on the smokeless Savage. What I like about this new Remington, over the custom Ultimate Rifle, is the improvements to the breech plug and ignition system. The Remington shoots Blackhorn 209 exceedingly well, whereas the Ultimate Rifle does not, as the Ultimate Rifle breech plug is designed for pellets. In addition, the Remington breech plug is user replaceable and low maintenance. It's near perfection for running the Blackhorn. I'll hear guys claim of getting only a shot or two from each priming case. Don't have a clue what they are doing, but using normal priming techniques, same as I do for loading my center-fire cartridges, I've gone to four reloads so far on one lot of cases, that being a total of five firings, and have yet to see any blow back. I purchased these through Remington in a case lot, and they were markedly cheaper. I believe it worked out to something around $18 bucks per bag, including shipping. So far, that looks like something around 15 cents each for five firings. I intend to sacrifice a breech plug and run my test lot until performance failure to find an average for how many times I can recycle the cases. In addition, will see how far I can abuse the breech plug with leakage to see how it fairs. Long term goal is to determine that average max number, say they go 6, 7, or 8 times or so, and I'll just back off a couple times and use that as maximum case life for my current lot. In addition, if down the road I begin to see the breech plug degrade causing pre-mature blow back, I'll just swap out with a spare. The breech plugs are not expensive and they are user friendly plug and play. Depending on demand, you may find one over the counter at a store for under $800. If you have access to dealer costs, then of course it would be cheaper, again if you can find one. If you desire to shoot Blackhorn 209 with a top shelf ignition system, then this rifle should be on your short list. If you have no desire to shoot Blackhorn 209 and are most interested in shooting smokeless, then maybe you should look elsewhere. Mine is needed for CO elk, so I intent to shoot fixed sights, Blackhorn, and the new Federal "non-sabot" bullet. So far, my rifle is shooting exceedingly well and I believe it to be a good choice. I've been happy running Blackhorn in the 91 grains to 98 grains weight range (130 to 140 grains volume), but a number of guys, including Bob Parker are running 160 grain volume loads with stellar performance out the same rifle. Whenever Western Powder completes their testing and come out with their "Remington Ultimate Only" loads, if they proof Parker's loads as safe, then I would certainly think that would be the bomb for those seeking 400 yard long range performance with a BP Substitute rifle, especially one that is rack grade production, yet shoots near custom rifle accurate. Best Well thought out post. Thank you. My hopes is that we will see more and more people testing the Remington Ultimate with BH209 and start establishing some load development with it. I for one am glad to see someone actually owning one and shooting one that is speaking up rather than someone that is pointing out the flaws in a muzzleloader they haven’t even handled yet let alone shot yet.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 8, 2015 21:36:31 GMT -5
I said ANY trigger. The Accutrigger in more that a couple,of dozen people's hands have had the light strike phenomenon . Usually during actual hunts where they may be prone to NOT bench rest standards and possibly with gloved hands or cold hands .
My definition of a proper trigger design is when you press it to the rear it discharges the round. If it does not do that 100% of the time no matter how I press it.. It's a,poor trigger design. Hope that clears that up.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 8, 2015 17:31:59 GMT -5
But Jeff is not any competent gunsmith, In the words of one of the wise men, " He has built a better mouse trap" More power to him, wish I was 10 years younger,I'd be beating on his front door. Marty That was really the point I was trying to express. He is more than a parts assembler. He is a true gunsmith and master craftsman. A hard thing to find now days.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 7, 2015 20:53:50 GMT -5
Any trigger that has a history of misfires is a BAD trigger design, PERIOD!
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 6, 2015 20:13:23 GMT -5
About the cheapest a man can construct a custom centerfire is somewhere in the $1500 price range. That is using a stock Remington 700 ADL and putting a decent barrel on it. That does not include custom stock options or custom trigger options. Price from there just goes up. So $2200 does not seem so out of whack for a quality muzzleloader built by a gunsmith the quality of Mr.Hankins. He is more than just a parts assembler. He is a master gunsmith and machinist. Actually, you can get it done for under $1K. Rem 700 SA @ Wal-Mart $377 (or so I'm told) Pac-Nor Barrel $436 Dave DD CF 45ACP Plug w/Bushing $120 Total: $933 Sorry I should have said labor cost included. I don't know any true competent gunsmith that is going to take a blank barrel.. cut Crown and ream it and head space it for much less than $500. I was also including a trigger job and basic bedding in my original figure.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 6, 2015 17:59:26 GMT -5
About the cheapest a man can construct a custom centerfire is somewhere in the $1500 price range. That is using a stock Remington 700 ADL and putting a decent barrel on it. That does not include custom stock options or custom trigger options. Price from there just goes up. So $2200 does not seem so out of whack for a quality muzzleloader built by a gunsmith the quality of Mr.Hankins. He is more than just a parts assembler. He is a master gunsmith and machinist.
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 5, 2015 19:00:31 GMT -5
There is going to be a lot of conversions. Once people start shooting these ML's and get aggravated with cleaning and shooting black powder and black powder substitutes they will start converting. The Ultimate ML is a great platform to start with.,,,. I have three of them on the bench right now getting converted to a 45 caliber and the HIS ignition system.. And one more is on the way for conversion... Jeff.. Coming from you that speaks volume. So let me ask. What makes the Remington Ultimate a better choice than say taking a standard 700 action and building on it?
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Post by miketodd58 on Jan 3, 2015 11:53:25 GMT -5
Perhaps we should not be so quick to judge. These guns are not selling for the $1200. ticket price which would make them a very poor investment. I have a buddy here that recently bought one and I believe he paid $750. for it brand new. The ignition system appears to be working top notch so far and the ignition modules are coming out clean on the outside and inside both... which blew my mind. It's too early to say wbat the longevity of the modules sealing on the inside will be but so far it has me very impressed. As for accuracy, thus far he is getting many groups in the 1.5" range and he has not played with many loads yet. I expect that he will soon find a load that will shoot in the 1 MOA range. I'm not advocating that anyone go out and buy one of these but at $750 I believe they offer a pretty good bang for the buck if you can live with .50 and sabots. Many thousands of people do. At $750 they do seem like a good price. I sort of feel like the many that have posted here that Remington made a mistake when they went with the Ultimate as a 4473 firearm. The original 700ML had really good barrels on them. They sure do shoot good with the Hunter 209 kit. Too bad they were hampered by the blow back issue. I think its one of the best muzzleloaders out there with the proper conversion. I respectfully disagree that you will see many of these getting converted to Smokeless. I cannot see someone spending $750 on one of these when they can buy a center fire donor for much less and re barrel it. The savings for a Donor action alone would almost pay for the barrel.
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Post by miketodd58 on Dec 26, 2014 18:15:51 GMT -5
I love my CVA Optima. Its shot everything I have stuffed down the barrel and shot it well.
Currently shooting Power belts and two White Hots. Ive tried several sabot combinations and it shoots them almost equally as well.
Sabots are much cheaper though.
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