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Post by dannoboone on Oct 23, 2010 22:03:23 GMT -5
They CAN break up. Has your BX ever done anything like this? Entrance (golf ball size after going through near shoulder) into rib cage:  Exit (3-4 piece):  This was actually a 150gr Redhot which probably was never actually marketed by Knight. They sold them in one of their auctions. The point & ogive are identical to the 195 BX, the rest of the bullet is shorter. Using the 5gr N110/65gr N120 load for a 200 SST load from the Smokeless Load Database, the chrony first read 3223fps with the 150gr bullet, then 3228 and 3228. Ya gotta get up into the magnums in .30 calibers to do that! But, as they say, speed is nice but accuracy kills. Touching holes @ 100yds is accurate enough for this happy camper. ;D |
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Post by deadeye on Oct 23, 2010 22:24:37 GMT -5
never shot that 'bx' but that is a nice failure! ;D
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Post by Al on Oct 24, 2010 2:36:40 GMT -5
I had a couple act simular a few years back, but they were the 180gr Knight/Barnes Red Hots. My Savage use to love their old 220gr version.
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Post by pposey on Oct 24, 2010 9:50:08 GMT -5
dosn't look like a failure to me looks like a well killed deer,,,,
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Post by dannoboone on Oct 24, 2010 10:24:38 GMT -5
dosn't look like a failure to me looks like a well killed deer,,,, SSSHHHHHH!! I'm goat-hunting. ;D ;D |
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Post by gunny on Oct 24, 2010 11:44:37 GMT -5
Made me think of the time a guy called Nosler and complained one of there bullets failed. The tech asked him at what point in the animals death did the bullet fail ;D gunny
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Post by tdillinger on Oct 24, 2010 12:16:26 GMT -5
I would not say the bullet failed, however i myself prefer less expansion and a lot more wieght retension.
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Post by deadeye on Oct 24, 2010 16:09:11 GMT -5
we are all fishermen here.guess everyone saw the ripple rings on the water around that red/white bobber ;D cast another one  |
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Post by Richard on Oct 24, 2010 17:03:36 GMT -5
Way to go Danno! Flat shootin' load, no?  ;D Richard |
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Post by killitgrillit on Oct 24, 2010 17:49:54 GMT -5
How much more dead do you want. ;D
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Oct 24, 2010 17:54:39 GMT -5
3200? wow.
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Post by dannoboone on Oct 24, 2010 20:19:57 GMT -5
we are all fishermen here.guess everyone saw the ripple rings on the water around that red/white bobber ;D cast another one I would, but he didn't even nibble on that one! ;D Way to go Danno! Flat shootin' load, no? ;D Richard One of those 12" sight-in targets was being used, where the bulls-eye is in the center for 6" off any way. Last year's 2500fps load was two inches high. There is a one inch cardboard border around the target inside a 3/8" rod frame. The first round hit 1-2" over the frame, so it was shooting 6+ - 7+ inches higher that the old load. Prob'ly a tad flatter! ;D Wish I had a huge stock of these to pass a bunch around! They do have to be knurled out to .4005 to be accurate in my barrel, though. Couldn't believe it on the first round, so tried the second, the third, and a fourth. Sabot base on the fourth hit and cracked the 1/4" plexiglass shield and got an error reading. Didn't want to risk using the chrony after that one! Guess it sort of coincides with the load in the PDF file, though. It reads around 2900fps with the 200 SST, and that still rivals many a CF magnum round using 200gr bullets. ;D Too bad the B.C.'s of our ML bullets are only about half of CF bullet B.C.'s, though.  |
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Post by youp50 on Oct 25, 2010 5:14:41 GMT -5
Danno,
Way to go.
I am biased to the Barnes line of bullets. I have been using them for over 20 years, mostly in a fast .25 I am not an employee of Barnes or affilited with them in any way.
I cannot see it as bullet failure though. What I see is a bullet that was outstanding in its performance. You have it ramped up to 1000fps past anything that could be considered design velocity. It smashed through the scapula. Entered the ribcage and killed the deer. On the way out it gave an interesting pattern on the ribs. A pattern that could be easily be viewed as a bullet tumbling. I have seen Barnes shed a petal. The petal takes a different path through the deer. Showing different exit wounds.
You have done a great job of taking the ML to a level few ever attempt. All that velocity and accuracy to boot. All that is left to do is the "whack 'em and stack 'm" part.
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Post by dannoboone on Oct 25, 2010 19:51:06 GMT -5
C'mon guys, that title was purely tongue-in-cheek. I was tickled
pink with the knock-down performance.
youp - Which .25 have you been using what Barnes bullets in? I
have a .25-06 and have been curious about limited coyote pelt
damage with Barnes bullets.
There was a shed petal under the skin at the exit point.
"You have done a great job of taking the ML to a level few ever attempt. All that velocity and accuracy to boot." Thanks, but
someone else came up with the 5/65 load, someone else put
it in PDF format, and Kerry B. put it on the board. Anyone know
just WHO I need to thank for coming up with that load for a
200SST? All I did was to substitute a lighter bullet with pleasing
results.
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Post by sw on Oct 25, 2010 20:21:59 GMT -5
Did you kill the deer?
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Post by dannoboone on Oct 25, 2010 21:22:48 GMT -5
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Post by edge on Oct 26, 2010 7:34:31 GMT -5
Yup total failure ;D Actually since you didn't find all of the pieces you don't know what made what hole. One was a petal since you found that, perhaps the second is another petal or even a piece of bone and the third the bullet shank. Even the goat would be proud of that bullet edge. |
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Post by bigmoose on Oct 26, 2010 8:21:51 GMT -5
While I don't pretend to have the knowledge of some of the folks on this site, I done some testing of bullets.
In my tests the Barnes Bullets are by far the best at penetration and forming perfect mushrooms, the only bullet that comes close to the Barnes is the Nosler Partition, and it is a distant second.
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;D
