Dave1
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Post by Dave1 on Oct 20, 2010 6:50:01 GMT -5
I have read where some are using teflon tape instead of anti-sieze in their Sav 10ML-II guns because it is quicker, easier, less mess, etc. Does the teflon tape work as well as the anti-sieze lube? Do you use teflon on the vent liner also?
In the past when disassembling threaded pipe joints where teflon tape was used I have noticed many little strings of the teflon tape remains in both the male and female threads. I am wondering if those strings and/or remains of the teflon tape embeded inside the barrel breech plug area represent any risk or issue with ignition, consistent powder burn, etc.??
How often do you clean the teflon tape from the BP and barrel threads? It has been mentioned that a 12 ga nylon bore brush can be used to clean the teflon from the barrel threads. By the time you buy the bore brush, cleaning rod, and go thru the cleaning process to remove the remains of the teflon tape from the barrel BP threads, it seems that maybe using the original anti-sieze wasn't so much trouble after all.
Thoughts?
Dave
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Post by dans on Oct 20, 2010 10:54:07 GMT -5
I use the teflon tape because it has been 100% reliable in keeping the breech plug from sticking. A plus is it cleans up easily. I use a 50 cal brush on both the receiver and the plug to get any residual tape off.
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Post by rangeball on Oct 20, 2010 10:56:14 GMT -5
I never got the feeling people were using tape to save money, rather it's much more user friendly. Tape residue should be much easier to clean from the breech threads than the gummy anti-seize residue. In the grand scheme of things, both tape and anti-seize are pretty cheap.
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Post by onecardchuck on Oct 20, 2010 10:57:42 GMT -5
Dave1,
Yes Teflon tape works great. I only use it on the breach plug and not on the ventliner. Perhaps others can chime in on there experience using it on the ventliner. I use the Pink heavy duty tape that does not lend itself to easily shred into pieces. Others use the Yellow or the white tape.
I would always when cleaning the gun run a 12ga nylon bore brush into the area where the breach plug screws into your barrel to clean any remains of teflon tap as well as any powder residue build up before replacing the cleaned and newly taped breach plug. You always want a good fit of the breach plug to the end of your barrel.
I usually clean after every range session which is 20 to 40 shots.
You already have the cleaning rod anyway all you need is the 12 ga nylon bore brush.
Anti-seize has been proven to be not so bad to clean out by many members of the board by using brake cleaner spray and shot it into that area then brush out the residue, hence still needing a brush.
Hope this helps,
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Post by Harley on Oct 20, 2010 15:45:11 GMT -5
The single BEST argument for either Teflon or nothing at all on the threads is made after you've had to clean a misfire; the unburned powder granules embed in the anti-seize grease and are a major nuisance and time consumer to remove.
Harley
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Post by artjr338wm on Oct 20, 2010 16:19:19 GMT -5
Based on the experience of others here, I tried using only Teflon tape and 1-2 SM drops of Rem-Oil on my Lehigh A/M vent liners and this combo has worked perfectly so far after two outings of 30++ shots per outing.
Teflon tape is the the only way to go for lubing VLs IMHO. Never tried Teflon tape on my B/P though. Anti-seize is a true SOB to clean out of the breach plug area of the receiver. Learned to hate the stuff from cleaning my 209x50 countless dozens of times.
I just recently gave a vent liner a try for the first time as I have used a vent liner-less RBnAR modified DB insert B/P ever since I bought my 10ML-II over 5-6 yrs ago.
Although I caution any reading my next bit of info with the disclaimer of "USE AT YOU OWN RISK" I have never ever, ever used any type of anti-seize or Teflon tape on my 10ML-II's breach plug, I simply install it 100% clean and dry and loosen it up every ten shots. This has worked for me for well over 500++ shots to date. Have used 100s of max or near max loads of H4198, RL-10, and never once has my breach plug been at all difficult to loosen or remove. Again the naked breach plug was a idea I learned from one of the most Senior members of this website.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2010 16:33:59 GMT -5
teflon here also, works great and have convinced my friends to use it as well. be sure and chase the threads with your fingernail or the back side of a butter knife or similar. it seldom shreds if chased
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Post by boarhog on Oct 20, 2010 17:06:34 GMT -5
I use the yellow teflon tape on both. Harley's argument about powder kernels sticking to grease goes double for me. I've had to pull the BP and push out loads more than once. I use a bronze 12 ga brush on a 16" piece of shotgun rod to clean the internal BP threads. Any teflon pieces come right out on the brush. So far, no problem with sticking BP or VL. Boarhog
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Post by splinter on Oct 21, 2010 8:24:57 GMT -5
Amen Harley, I use the Tape now.
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Post by GMB54-120 on Oct 21, 2010 8:34:32 GMT -5
There is also a grey Teflon tape made for stainless and used in high temp applications. Its a bit hard to find. Having a pipe fitter friend makes it a bit easier to get. www.sealfast.com/d_teflon_tape.htmlYellow Teflon tape is made for natural gas...not sure why its better for gas lines other than its the thickest. Green for oxygen lines and non combustible Pink Teflon is thicker than white There is also anti seize made for stainless also and it is very messy come clean up time. Its main benefit is items left assembled for a long time or steel to stainless steel applications.
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Post by tdillinger on Oct 21, 2010 8:36:39 GMT -5
I use copper anti sieze, and always fire one primer through after reinstalling with the thought this would blow out anything excessive. I have zero problems and everything comes apart easily and reinstalls and I do not need an other application of anti sieze.
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Post by pposey on Oct 21, 2010 15:26:02 GMT -5
I use tape for both
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