More hot air on compressed air!

[Rifleman]

Well thanks to all you guys and especially PPosey in my quest to find the right airgun for my friend. The 25 cal Kodiak he sold me is a beauty. I took it to the range today and fired my first aimed shot through it, and was not disappointed. Been along time since I shot a springer and this one is a real cannon! I put up a quarter sized shoot n see repair dot and stepped back to 25 yards. Shooting off hand, my first shot hit the black. I was tickled. Well I would like to say every other shot hit the black, but I would be lyin. Still the rifle shot to my call, and when I did my part the shot did hit the black, and the rest of the time the shot went were I knew it should be. Did a test on penetration too with a couple of the pellets on a pine 2x4. At 25 yards the domed pellets went about 3/4 way through the board and the crow magnums went about an inch. I am pretty sure a head shot at 25 yards will surely kill a whistle pig dead as snot. LOL
So I took it out to my friend on the farm and man was he tickled. We saw a bird walking in the mud down at the pond about 75 yards away. I took a shot from the off hand holding over a little for the increased distance. Well I did not hit the bird, but gave him a little mud bath. My friend was awestruck that one could even do that with an iron sighted air gun. I told him, well this ain't your old Red Ryder ;D Anyway he took a few shots and loved it. He was all ready planning his strategy for the chucks. I showed him a few pointers on care and maintenance on a springer and left him a happy farm boy. Hopefully in the coming days I will be able to report on the efficacy of the rifle on chucks. He thanked me many times over for finding this rifle and I thought it only fitting to pass this along to all of you that helped me in this regard. Thanks fellas and again thank you PPosey!

[wilmsmeyer]

How heavy are the pellets and how fast do they go? I need something like this....or in .22 that won't break the bank. I do not want a .177

[Rifleman]

Wilms I don't know how heavy the pellets are but I suppose one could look it up. They claim this gun shoots the heavy crow magnum pellets at 950 fps. I don't think they make this Kodiak in 25 cal anymore. This rifle would break the bank if new, I think they ran around $750 when new. But perhaps you could find a deal on a used one like I did.

[pposey]

Hope it works well for him, it turned into a good deal for all,, You may find a used one out there but be careful buying used springers, you never know how bad they have been treated. This model is also know as the webley patriot,,,, they are made by webley,,,, I don't care much for the sights on the Kodiak, I'd scope that sucker and watch the fur part when ya shoot

I still have not had time at home to find some good springer mantenance sites for ya,,,,,,,

[Rifleman]

It's alright Posey, I think we got it figured out. Thanks!

[pposey]

beeman.com/

www.velocitypress.com/BeemanKodiak.shtml

heres a couple anyway,,,, remember you shoot that skunk we allll want to know what happens

[Rifleman]

Thanks and I if do get that skunk, I will send him to ya!

[pposey]

Nope all I want is the storyyyy the stinkier the better!

[orion]

Wilmsmeyer,

If you are shooting rabbits, squirrels, feral cats etc. You are ok with the smaller bores. I have killed many of the above with my .20. Don't sell this size short. It shoots flatter than the .22.

Much of the killing you get with air guns is from penetration anyway and once you get out around 30 yards or so they start to drop like a rock. Most air gun hunters prefer pointed or domed pellets at long distance. Up close the flat nosed or hollow points are awesome. Most guns will kill stuff, you just have to hit them right to do it, and that is where the .20 shines in my opinion.

The big bores do have a wallop factor that the smaller do not. I would get a .25 if you are going to shoot wood chucks though. I have never owned one so I am not sure on the penetration thing with them. I would assume they would penetrate fine, from the report above. I have shot enough of them with a .22 rim to know what happens if you don't brain them.

I believe the .20 pellets only weigh about 14 or 15 grains. and go about 700 0r 750 out of my springer (R1). I would not believe the hype you read about air gun velocities. The big numbers are almost always the result of using ultra light pellets. I have chrono ed mine and the difference is huge going from light to heavy pellets. I use the heavy always as they are also more forgiving of the piston in your gun and penetrate better at any type of long range.

I have dropped feral cats with mine at 50 yards. Of course many have run away after being hit also. If you hit them in the throat beneath the chin when they are starring at you, they drop like a rock.

good luck

[Rifleman]

Well got the first report back on the 25. My friend shot a chuck at about 10 yds in the body. The chuck made it back in the hole, but has not been heard from since. It is assumed he is dead. I got this from my friends 83 yr old father, so details were sketchy.

[pposey]

with one of the heavy pellets he probably is. I'd use those heavier pointed ones