Earnhardt.
I don't know why you get so worked up when I talk about my system. It is proven its self in every test you guys have thrown at it and it proved itself at the first Challenge when five of my rifles took the top five places in an accuracy match. So for 70 fps difference you can keep your 209 primers.
I see no reason to shoot any other powder than 4198 when it produces match winning results time after time after time.
I have also tested powders from 4198 all the way to h50bmg with no ignition problems what so ever.
This is the first I've heard of someone wanting to bring you up on charges for using the .041 bushing. I can't control what others say or do.
If people are contacting you about problems with LRMP systems then they are contacting the wrong person, they should be contacting the maker, builder of it to try a find out what they are doing wrong and how to fix their problems. If its my system that's giving problems then they are doing something wrong, but I can't help them if they don't call me.
70 to 100 fps is chump change to me. You can't base those velocities on primer systems. Your chrony is attached to your barrel, directly in front of the muzzle, most others are 15 to 20 feet in front of their muzzle easily explaining 70 fps difference.
Again one type of powder and one bushing size and any good quality bullet is all most people want.. Most of these guys are hunters, not testers. They want a go to load that they know will perform every time. Most don't have a 500 yard range in their back yard and the time to shoot daily trying to figure out a load that works.
They want a load that will kill deer without doubts.
Deadeyes velocities were with a chrony approx 20 feet in front of the muzzle. The only way to get true test numbers is to use the same chrony..
The only reason I am coming out with the HIS 209 is because there are people that still think the 209 primer is better, and there will always be people that think the 209 is better, I'm just not one of them. So if I can offer the 209 primer in my system and the LRMP in my system them I should be able to sell twice as many ignition systems... Kinda like take your pick. I'll have it covered.
I spent a day last week shooting my rifle with every powder you asked for. I plan on making a post with the results along with a video as soon as I can get it done.
Thanks Jeff Hankins..
You do realize that I'm not worked up right?...
That's an argumentative ploy, and it's not working.
Jeff, I respect the work you've done with SMLs.
But you need to be honest with people here.
A LRM gun of yours shot a bullet more than 400 fps slower than a 209M gun with the same bullet and powder load of H4350.
You know as well as I do that there is ignition problems with that load right?
Don't take this the wrong way , but I liken your videos to a new car commercial.
Dude...less videos... and more targets with various powders and bullet combos.
What we want to see on the board is more of your guns in action from the people who bought them, and are shooting them in everyday situations.
We want to know how the bullet/powder combos work out with various loads.
You have to admit, we see very sporadic info on your guns.
There is very little known about your guns. Why? I don't know why.
I'd like to see how various powders work in your guns, and the info posted by someone who bought it from you.
The new car sales pitch just doesn't work for me.
The MPG posted on the sticker doesn't match up to real life sometimes.
deadeye posted a 2 shot .181" group at 200 yards with one of your guns with a 327 MH and IMR4831.
Yes his velocity is lower than mine with that powder, but the accuracy is awesome. But that's one guy posting 1 group.
Maybe one of the reasons there aren't as many threads from guys owning your guns is due to fact that there aren't as many of them out there as the 209 guns.
I've just always wondered why you never shoot anything, but super fast powders with light bullets in your .45s.
Have you ever shot at longer ranges with your LRM guns with heavier bullets?
I don't just mean once or twice, but many times.
Is the accuracy at long range repeatable with your LRM guns?
One of the main reasons guys get bit so hard by the smokeless muzzle loader bug is due to the fact of the unbelievable long range accuracy.
But the vast majority of the targets we see are from 209 guns. They are cheaper for us to build and some of us like to build our own guns.
It's a good thing you came out with the barrel nut Savage LRM barrels, but if the price is inhibitive, it's not worth it to me, because I know so little about your guns except for the Chevy commercial videos you post.
Here's something we do not see with your guns. (and not I don't mean your target gun) A target that has 5 bullseyes on it, where the owner of a Hankins LRM guns just started to lay it down like Richard does, and I sometimes do. One shot after another. I'd love to see that. Hell, have deadeye do it. We all know he's a target shooter, where the rest of us are more of an average shooter.
That's why I do it, is to prove to every body else that they can do they same thing a shmuck like I can.
But like I said I'm not falling for the fact that the chrony is the only difference in velocities. And I'm guessing a lot of other people aren't either. (180- 430 fps slower?...)
How about this, I can use 20 grains less 4350 in my 209M gun than a Bad Bull LRM does, and get the same velocity. And my barrel is 1" shorter.
You know as well as I do, that the LRM doesn't ignite slow powders as well as 209s do.
But that's why you are using large payloads of fast powders in your 45's and .416s, isn't it? (come on man, admit it)
We don't care if it just ignites the powder, it has to ignite it and help it burn efficiently. (400+ fps slower is not efficient)