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Post by dirtboy on Nov 11, 2013 21:47:46 GMT -5
Found this website a couple weeks ago after getting tired of current muzzle loader. I wanted an accurate gun and was going to buy a new savage on armslist but I found this site and have been trying to take all this information in. so i decided to go with a 700 ml stainless that I eventually will put a PAC-nor 45 barrel on it and my dad has an old 40x 22 stock laying around. I read a post about using the hunter bolt conversion and new breach plug for 209 primer so I can use blackhorn. The new breach plug that you use is it a savage breach plug? Are the threads inside the 700 ml the same as the savage as far as breach plug? If I remember correct you have to sand down both ends of the breach plug to use the hunter bolt nose kit and when you do the PAC nor conversion you just get a new breach plug. Any help would be nice or if there is a detailed thread on this somewhere out there. Thanks
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Post by rossman40 on Nov 12, 2013 8:53:29 GMT -5
Welcome to the board! What you want to do is have Hunter send you a smokeless nose and a "smoker" breechplug which will fit right into your Remy barrel. The smokeless nose is just a tad longer so you would have to cut like two threads of the smoker breechplug to get the proper headspacing. The barrels from Pacnor and McGowen are cut to use a Savage breechplug with Hunters smokeless nose. Usually all you have to do is change the angle on the Savage breech plugs primer nose and your headspaced.
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Post by dirtboy on Nov 12, 2013 20:36:37 GMT -5
Thank you for your help. I assume hunter is from smokelessmz.com?
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Post by hunter on Nov 13, 2013 6:52:04 GMT -5
Sent you a PM
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Post by edwardamason on Nov 13, 2013 14:38:39 GMT -5
Found this website a couple weeks ago after getting tired of current muzzle loader. I wanted an accurate gun and was going to buy a new savage on armslist but I found this site and have been trying to take all this information in. so i decided to go with a 700 ml stainless that I eventually will put a PAC-nor 45 barrel on it and my dad has an old 40x 22 stock laying around. I read a post about using the hunter bolt conversion and new breach plug for 209 primer so I can use blackhorn. The new breach plug that you use is it a savage breach plug? Are the threads inside the 700 ml the same as the savage as far as breach plug? If I remember correct you have to sand down both ends of the breach plug to use the hunter bolt nose kit and when you do the PAC nor conversion you just get a new breach plug. Any help would be nice or if there is a detailed thread on this somewhere out there. Thanks I think you are going to find once you do the Hunter conversion that a REm 700 ML with the right load is probably going to be one of the most accurate MZ's you have ever shot. Quite frankly they will probably out shoot many of the custom rigs on the market. |
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Post by 10ga on Nov 18, 2013 9:20:40 GMT -5
I think you are going to find once you do the Hunter conversion that a REm 700 ML with the right load is probably going to be one of the most accurate MZ's you have ever shot. Quite frankly they will probably out shoot many of the custom rigs on the market. What Ed said! I have 2 700MLs upgraded with boltnose and plug, kept the .45 remmy barrels, and they are very accurate. Only gun I have that is as good is my Encore conversion and all 3 shoot same, as in less than moa. If you do the conversion you will be happy. BH209 makes it happen and a much less expensive way to go! 10 ga |
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Post by dirtboy on Nov 18, 2013 20:16:37 GMT -5
Just pick my 700ml stainless 50 cal. up over weekend and it is superclean. Paid a little more than I wanted to but I think it's worth it for how clean it is. I am going to do bolt conversion and new plug from hunter to shoot the rest of my blackhorn to see how it shoots and I may use it next muzzle loader season while I save money for the new barrel. Thanks for the help and I am sure I will be asking questions in the future.
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Post by bmfox on Nov 26, 2013 14:05:37 GMT -5
Hunter, could you send me a pm regarding your 700ml 50cal kit? Thanks, Brian
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Post by hunter on Nov 26, 2013 17:18:33 GMT -5
Brian,
What do you need to know/
Are you wanting to stay with the factory barrel or are you considering going the smokeless route?
Factory barrel kits are 114.00 shipped or 139.00 installed.
Fred
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Post by fattmallard on Nov 27, 2013 1:04:52 GMT -5
Fred, Can you PM me with how I go about ordering a conversion kit from you? Thanks, Robert
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Post by bmfox on Nov 27, 2013 7:37:35 GMT -5
Hunter, im just looking to upgrade to your 209 bolt kit. I have the canadian kit in there which creates lots of blowby. Just not sure if I would be able to modify the bolt as needed.
Thanks
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Post by tnhunterkmc on Nov 28, 2013 15:45:56 GMT -5
Bmfox send it to Fred for the conversion. Mine is on the way back from him now and can't wait to finally put my 700mls back into action. It had become a safe queen due to all the blow back and unreliable ignition of pyrodex pellets even with a 209 conversion kit (which I had put on way back when they first came out).
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Post by rjhans53 on Nov 29, 2013 13:27:30 GMT -5
doing the conversion yourself is not a big deal. Or maybe I've just been lucky on the 3 I did
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Post by dannoboone on Nov 29, 2013 14:07:41 GMT -5
doing the conversion yourself is not a big deal. Or maybe I've just been lucky on the 3 I did Correct, no big deal. It isn't rocket science. Fishhawk explained it in detail here: dougsmessageboards.proboards.com/thread/7426/installation-hunters-bolt-nose-700mlAlthough the photos have been deleted, a little over half-way down the page, "excisac" posted a pdf. that you can download which has the same great photos as well as the detailed explanation. |
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Post by luckybuckman on Mar 30, 2014 20:34:18 GMT -5
where can i buy 700ml breech plug for 209
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2014 21:34:33 GMT -5
where can i buy 700ml breech plug for 209 Do you have a hunter boltnose kit or just need a stock 209 primer breachplug for the 700ml....I have some stock ones for sale..pm me if interested... |
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Post by junkman on Mar 31, 2014 0:48:37 GMT -5
Best thing that ever happened to a 700 was the Hunter bolt kit.I put one of those on mine and I'm very pleased with it.
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Post by luckybuckman on Mar 31, 2014 5:43:21 GMT -5
will the breachplug come with hunter boltnose conversion for stock rimington 700ml
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2014 7:04:33 GMT -5
will the breachplug come with hunter boltnose conversion for stock rimington 700ml You need to send a message to hunter if you want his conversion. |
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