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Post by kralik4jr on Dec 7, 2012 11:36:44 GMT -5
Going to use one of my Slufoot conversions for my daughters. I am going to shoot the 195 Barnes and Harvester blue. Shooting H4198 out of my other guns but I remember seeing other threads about other powders in lighter loads and loads for kids.
Thanks for the help.
Cory
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Post by rangeball on Dec 7, 2012 11:57:13 GMT -5
Low dose N110 or 4759 if you have it.
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Post by lwh723 on Dec 7, 2012 12:03:18 GMT -5
Low dose N110 or 4759 if you have it. Yep, around 30grs should give you 21-2300 fps with hardly any recoil. |
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Post by GMB54-120 on Dec 7, 2012 12:17:20 GMT -5
Low amounts of 4759 (35-38gr) should be very low recoil. Even 40gr was really mild in a heavy Pacnor build. You might be able to reduce it even more with the Barnes 40-155gr TAC-XP. They are cheaper than the 195BX if you want another copper option.
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Post by pposey on Dec 7, 2012 13:09:14 GMT -5
Low dose of 4759 and a 200xtp I'll look for some of my load info
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Post by tar12 on Dec 7, 2012 16:02:19 GMT -5
Light loads of 5744 for sure and I suspect Re-7 as well.
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Post by TGinPA on Dec 7, 2012 17:09:43 GMT -5
With those loads with light bullets has anyone seen issues with temp sensitivity and ignition inconsistency? Just asking....
TG
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2012 17:43:38 GMT -5
With my Pacnor I had no ignition issues with 55-56gr H4198 using a knurled 155 General and 155 TAC bullet in a light blue Harvester sabot.
In a 45-70 conversion I tried the knurled 155 TAC's and did not get ignition.
I believe the Pacnor fired with no ignition problems due to its tight bore.
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Post by fordwrench on Dec 7, 2012 20:02:57 GMT -5
Try 33 grs 4759 a smooth blue and a 200sst. No recoil and very accurate . No ignition issues at all.
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Post by jeremylong on Dec 7, 2012 20:04:48 GMT -5
I have used 30 & 32grns n110 and sbh Barnes 195 and the Barnes 155 tac. I knurled the 155's just a touch but they probably didn't need it. Both shoot really well.
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Post by jeremylong on Dec 7, 2012 20:09:03 GMT -5
Tg no ignition issues with the n110 in the setup I mentioned above. I used n110 when looking for an accurate low recoil load for the daughter because I was scared of running into both of the things you mentioned when getting sub50 grn loads of 4198.
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Post by pposey on Dec 7, 2012 20:27:39 GMT -5
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Post by kralik4jr on Dec 8, 2012 9:43:48 GMT -5
Thanks guys. My brother has some 4759. Going to shoot tomorrow. Will let you know.
Thanks again.
Jr
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 11:04:50 GMT -5
I am building my 9 year old son a gun for christmas. it will be a 22" pacnor sendero in a 700ML youth stock. I am planning to try 34-38 grns of n-110 and a 195 barnes, hopefully it will be a light rig with very tolerable recoil... when it gets done I will post a pic of his big smile with his new deer stick. he gets it early so he can try it out hopefully..
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Post by hunter on Dec 8, 2012 15:10:40 GMT -5
Hillbill,
If you need a youth stock for the 700ml build I have a black one.
They do not have much of a pad on them though.
PM me if you need it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 15:38:32 GMT -5
thanks hunter but Luke already fixed me up. I will be ordering a B&C lightweight stock to bed it in just in case dad wants to borrow it now and then..
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Post by kralik4jr on Dec 9, 2012 15:39:04 GMT -5
Thanks again guys. I tried 30gr of IMR4759 and shot a .75" group at 95 yds with a Barnes 195 and blue harvester and kicks like a .223 or less. She is ready to go. ;D
Jr
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Post by barrycuda on Dec 10, 2012 8:12:39 GMT -5
Cory,
Both of my grandsons (9 & 11) shoot H & R conversions with 32 gr. of SR4759, 200 gr XTP and light blue Harvester. I have to knurl the bullet a bit for one of the guns but they are sub moa out to 100 yards with little recoil. They have taken three deer so far this season, the fartherest being 93 yds. Good luck.
Barry
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Post by pposey on Dec 10, 2012 8:23:36 GMT -5
How well will the barnes 195 open up at that speed "2000fps or so" ? anybody know?
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Post by kralik4jr on Dec 10, 2012 9:08:08 GMT -5
I am curious too. Should be ok I would think. I can't be much slower than the BP shooters and that's what the bullet was designed for isn't it?
Thanks again
Cory
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Post by jeremylong on Dec 10, 2012 9:09:09 GMT -5
32grn n110 145yrds opposite side shoulder just under the hide. 8 yr old boy made the shot. this is the recovered bullet.  |
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Post by kralik4jr on Dec 10, 2012 16:07:33 GMT -5
That's good enough for me.
Thx.
Cory
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 20:00:00 GMT -5
looks like a winner to me!
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Post by pposey on Dec 10, 2012 23:59:48 GMT -5
Yep that looks just fine!
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