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Post by gunny on Aug 8, 2011 9:36:43 GMT -5
Anyone really the know the difference between the two? Are they the same bullet with a different tip?
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Post by gunny on Aug 8, 2011 21:30:19 GMT -5
I called Hornady and got an answer the pistol bullets ie .452,s are the same as SST,s except with soft tip. The 325 Ftx is a new configuration thicker jacket. I answered my own question ;D
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Post by jray57 on Aug 9, 2011 4:57:58 GMT -5
The 250 FTX is a pistol bullet? The 250 Ftx was/is designed for the 450 Bushmaster. The 225 FTX on the other hand was designed for the 45 Colt and is a thinner jacket. This was from my conversations with Hornady. I to am curious as to how the FTX and the SST in the 250gr versions compare as to jacket thickness. All I could get from Hornady was that the 250 FTX was designed with the higher velocities of the bushmaster in mind whereas the 250 SST was designed for a muzzleloader. I know I have a hard time getting the 250 FTX's to shoot well sabotless (the 225 FTX shoots very well)and am fairly sure it is because of poor obturation due to jacket thickness. I have yet to get some of the 250 SST's to try sabotless but am also interested to see if there are any real world differences. (I have a box of 250 FTX's I would gladly trade for SST's if you want to test them  ) |
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Post by GMB54-120 on Aug 9, 2011 7:58:53 GMT -5
The 225gr FTX is a great fun bullet and super accurate for me. I think it is because the jacket is thinner and it obturates well. The 200gr FTX is made for the 460S&W and i never could get it to shoot as well because it has a thicker jacket and a simalar bearing length as the 225gr. Combined that makes it hard to obturate.
The 325gr FTX has a really thick jacket at the base and pretty thick upto the top cannelure but has a long bearing surface. The jacket on the ogive is much thinner. There is a cut away of several buried in the archives somewhere.
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Post by rossman40 on Aug 9, 2011 10:31:41 GMT -5
The way I understand it Hornady actually changed the original case dimensions of the 450 Bushmaster to be able to use the SST bullet. They may use the same dies and the original bullets for the 450 Bushmaster had a canalure. Hornady has made slight changes to the SST thru the years and the newer SSTs did carry the softer tip. I should have marked my older SSTs to compare them to the newer FTX. It would be nice if the bullet makers would list the mods made to the bullets over the years.
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Post by cfvickers on Aug 9, 2011 15:09:36 GMT -5
The FTX 225 has two interlocking rings, I know that, I have torn one of those down. Actually 2 of them. one after being fired at 100 yards and the other from new. At 100 yards it holds together like a bonded bullet would with 90% plus weight retention.
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Post by jgar on Aug 9, 2011 16:59:39 GMT -5
cfvickers, what velocity were you shooting the 225ftx?
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Post by cfvickers on Aug 10, 2011 3:09:47 GMT -5
Mine are pretty mild at 2350. But I was getting sub inch groups.
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Post by jray57 on Aug 10, 2011 8:10:02 GMT -5
dougsmessageboards.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=smokeless&action=display&thread=8684I shoot the 225 FTX sabotless in the mid 2700's with sub MOA accuracy. Have yet to shoot anything larger than a groundhog but I am going to try this bullet on our Central Va deer this fall. I'm hoping the bullet will perform adequately on broadside boiler room shots only. I would be really interested to know if there are any differences between the 250 FTX andSST other than the cannelure though.
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Post by gunny on Aug 10, 2011 8:41:12 GMT -5
I looked at an online ad for the 450 bushmaster hornady ammo it does say they are loaded with SST bullets with soft tip ie Flex Tip Looks to me its the same 250 SST but with a soft tip. gunny
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Post by GMB54-120 on Aug 10, 2011 8:45:17 GMT -5
I was pushing the 225gr FTX into the 2400fps range in a sabot very accurately. I never tried my media/jug test with smokeless but with subs they fragged badly, Now if you are shooting far enough for the bullet to drop down into the 1800fps range, it is probably ok for deer hit in the boiler room. I would feel much better about using the 45-200gr FTX if i can get it to shoot well. Its made for in the 2300fps MV range and reports from 460S&W shooters are fairly good. Meat damage is a bit high but they work at that fps.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2011 8:42:39 GMT -5
Hornady informed me also that the 250sst and the 250ftx are the same and are NOT designed to be shot over a muzzle velocity of 2300ft/sec. They did not go into the other weights specs.
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Post by GMB54-120 on Aug 12, 2011 20:33:26 GMT -5
The part number for both is similar if i remember too. I thought they were both the same for the 250gr but wasn't sure. I would probably agree with them on FPS if most of your shots are really close. Thats about what the Bushmaster shoots at IIRC.
The big 325gr is still my favorite of the bunch for hunting.
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