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Post by davidehickey on Mar 7, 2009 12:09:48 GMT -5
Well I went cheap and bought a Weaver Classic 4x32 shotgun scope for my savage. It was the one at Natchez that was supposively 249.00 marked down to 79.00. Was a little hesitant but decided if I didn't like it I would mount it to my shotgun. Anyhow I know almost nothing about scope mounts and rings. Do I need anything special to mount the scope to the Savage "screw hole pattern and screw size or is all of that pretty much standard? Any recommendations would also be appreciate about quick release, brand, one piece 2 piece. And also mounting should I use thread lock and if so on all pieces rings and mount. Scope should be in Monday. Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
David
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Mar 7, 2009 12:30:51 GMT -5
Well here we go... My first suggestion would be Warne steel base's and Warne QR rings... I have most of my scope's mounted with Warne ring's and wish I would have used QR for my savage And my Encore..I will someday. The Warne base's aren't easy to find on the shelf anywhere. RW has them listed on his site. Look to make sure the front base isn't riding up on the recoil lug. Test your screw's without the base's to see how far they go in the barrel count the revolution's then again with the base's on ( you should get at least 1/2 turn less when tightened ) And I always use a little blue thread locker on my base's and rings.I don't think I would with QR rings though. I hope I have been of some help. Good Luck Drop
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Post by cgg on Mar 7, 2009 14:19:02 GMT -5
I agree with the steel bases idea. I have Weaver, but would buy Warne if I was buying now. And I love my Warne QD rings--I'd definitely buy them again. IMO don't try and save money by buying cheap aluminum bases and/or rings--they will not hold up like the steel stuff does.
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Post by rexxer on Mar 7, 2009 14:36:47 GMT -5
I agree the Warne rings and bases are of good quality but I haven't decided if the QD are a step up or down.  QD Quick detach is a feature I don't think I would ever use. I would highly doubt that it is any stronger so make sure you want that feature before spending the extra money. It does seem like the qd feature has a good following here at Dougs but if my rifle is sighted in I'm not going to take the scope off for anything. |
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Post by Harley on Mar 7, 2009 15:40:56 GMT -5
The QD is the equal of the fixed rings; its only real advantage is the convenience of removing and reinstalling the scope without having to start zeroing-in from scratch. I use the QD in swapping between my hunting and target scopes. They are a great plus, also, if you carry an extra scope with you on, say, a long hunting trip.
Harley
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Post by whyohe on Mar 7, 2009 17:04:42 GMT -5
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Post by cgg on Mar 7, 2009 18:30:25 GMT -5
I agree the Warne rings and bases are of good quality but I haven't decided if the QD are a step up or down. QD Quick detach is a feature I don't think I would ever use. I would highly doubt that it is any stronger so make sure you want that feature before spending the extra money. It does seem like the qd feature has a good following here at Dougs but if my rifle is sighted in I'm not going to take the scope off for anything. QD rings are very convenient for cleaning and access to the breech area and the breech plug. I do not have a third pillar and remove my breech plug with a home made little socket and ratcheting wrench rather than loosening an action screw. FWIW the scope always returns very close to zero, but you are right. For hunting I would check zero with a half dozen shots and go hunting without removing the scope or cleaning until after the hunt. And IMO the Warne QD's are as strong as the "permanents." Just my .02 |
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Post by rexxer on Mar 7, 2009 19:47:17 GMT -5
I had QD on my last scope. I went that route because I thought it might be easier cleaning. After sighting in I never had the guts to loosen them and tighten them back up. Swaping scopes back and forth would be easier but I shoot the same tube for everything.I guess when I'm hunting I don't want the worry if my scope was put back to zero. I don't want to check zero after I clean my Savage either. I also wanted to put more pressure on the levers when tightening than I think I should. Too me it is just plain easier to torque the screws. The good thing is they make them both ways. If you can use the feature then it might be worth the extra bucks.
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Post by cumminscowboy on Mar 7, 2009 20:02:59 GMT -5
I just got my ken farrell base in from sharp shooter supply, its a beefy brute, I knew it would be, I got tired of being limited with mounting options with my austin & halleck, now I will be able to just about mount anything, some people say the savage action flexes and tears up scopes, as beefy as this mount is it should do away with that and actually stiffin up the action if anything else, it also should sit up a little and allow good access to the priming area. I plan to use leupold QRW rings, I think they may be made by warne, in any event that have some beef to them as well, I like them better as you don't have to hassle with a vertical split situation when mounting
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Post by onecardchuck on Mar 8, 2009 2:08:50 GMT -5
Before you begin be sure to clean all your screws and parts because they usually have a light coating of oil on them. You can use a variety of different chemicals to remove the oil so you locktite will take hold and stay in place. Examples are Acetone, brake parts cleaner, alcohol, and many more.
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Post by mike.dawson on Mar 8, 2009 6:03:39 GMT -5
The Weaver Grand Slam bases, #S46, two peices, are the same as the Warne steel bases and fit the 10ml ll that have the round receiver. I also use blue loctite and the Warne QD rings, the scope comes off for cleaning the rifle, goes back on, the POI is the same as when I took it off. I am going to look around for a steel one peice base so I have more options
Mike
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Post by screwbolts on Mar 8, 2009 6:50:13 GMT -5
Hi All, for the past 30 plus years I have removed and reinstalled scopes mounted with Weaver style steel ring and have NEVER had my POI change. :-) Your QD mounts are very nice and I believe are meant to be used to free up the open sights when the going really get rough. On both of my 1000 yard 50BMGs I have removed and reinstall the scopes 100s of times and have never had a POI change problem.
When hunting, with a rifle that also wears open sights I have a 1/2" washer on my key ring that has a flat spot filed to the out side circumference and a notch cut in the center of the flat. this is and has always been my scope ring removal and tightening tool.
I say use good quality bases and good mounts, If the brand name is important to you then use it but you don't have to install a base or set of rings just to impress your shooting buddies, it will only lighten your pockets :-), and take money away from the shooting fund.
Ken
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QD Quick detach is a feature I don't think I would ever use. I would highly doubt that it is any stronger so make sure you want that feature before spending the extra money. It does seem like the qd feature has a good following here at Dougs but if my rifle is sighted in I'm not going to take the scope off for anything.
