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Post by lunchbox on Jul 2, 2011 15:36:56 GMT -5
Im still looking trying to reload for the 30-06 and had another question. Doing some research people seem to like the IMR 4350 for theirs. Is this powder temp sensitive? And would you recomend a different powder? Thanks Lunchbox
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Post by mountainam on Jul 2, 2011 16:53:57 GMT -5
If I had to use a 4350, I would use H-4350. Hodgdon refers to it as a Extreme powder and IS less temp sensitive. I like ball powders and perfer H-414 which is a spherical equivalent to H-4350 in burn characteristics. When I load for others I use extruded powder because I don't know what temps they will be using it. But for myself I load H-414. Good Ammocrafting.
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Post by lunchbox on Jul 2, 2011 17:37:26 GMT -5
What load would you suggest starting out with H414? Thanks
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Post by deadeye on Jul 2, 2011 21:29:26 GMT -5
what bullet & weight? for the 150gn class bullets i find imr 4064 is an easy & accurate load,just one avenue.
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Post by lunchbox on Jul 2, 2011 22:58:53 GMT -5
Sorry its the 165 grain in nosler partition and the swift a frame.
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Post by mountainam on Jul 3, 2011 6:39:28 GMT -5
Lunchbox, I'd start with 57.0grs for H-4350 or 44.0grs for H414. That's for your 165gr bullet parameters in a modern rifle like a Rem 700 and such. Increase by .5 grs until accuracy is acceptable. All this info is on www.Hodgdon.com reloading site. I stay with the slower burning powders for safety's sake. At one time IMR/ Dupont lead the way with powder technology, but they sold out to Hodgdon. The only powder that they have now that I feel is cutting edge is the new XBR-8208 which if you look closely has Hodgdon written all over it. You are in the correct ballpark with 4350 for the 165 bullet. Checkout the Hodgdon Reloading site!
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Post by billc on Jul 10, 2011 18:28:05 GMT -5
I would choose IMR-4895, 4320, or 4064. I load for my 03-A3 and 1917 using IMR-4064.
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Post by rossman40 on Jul 10, 2011 21:00:42 GMT -5
For heavier then 165gr I would say 4350, I like it because it fills the case well. Lighter bullets I would have to agree with the others 4895, 4320 or 4064. You can try Varget, Reloader 15, N150 and another ball powder WW 760. H414 I had bad experiences with, just couldn't get the batch I had to shoot consistent but it was one of those "try this" when it was handed to me.
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Post by mike3132 on Jul 11, 2011 9:15:33 GMT -5
Rossman, Ball powders Ive used are too temperature sensitive for me. I had a very accurate .223 load using W748 that I developed in the spring. Shot it one day in 70 degree temps and it was all over the place. W760 and H414 are the same powder. In 4350 I like the IMR better than Hodgdon. Mike
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Post by Rifleman on Jul 12, 2011 18:37:36 GMT -5
I always used IMR 4350 as my go to powder in both 30 and 25-06.
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Post by wayles on Jul 13, 2011 22:58:14 GMT -5
RL19 has worked well for me shooting the nosler accubonds 150 grain wayles
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Post by brute on Jul 16, 2011 10:02:02 GMT -5
Another vote for H414 .
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Post by hubcap52 on Jan 7, 2012 18:42:21 GMT -5
For the heavier stuff I've used Accurate 3100. 60 gr. compressed under a Hornady 190 BTSP, Fed. mag primer, made a one shot kill on elk for me. It is a hot load, so work up to it. Shot lots of it in my gun, and it's safe for me. Not in some others who tried it.
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Post by cfvickers on Jan 9, 2012 10:09:13 GMT -5
I have no experience with a 30-06, but I use quite a bit of IMR4350, and H4350. I have not found it to be overly temp sensitive, but likely more temp sensitive than H4350. I have also found that most rifles (with the exception of one) I have tried them both in have performed well with one but not the other. With my 6.5x55 I can duplicate both velocity and groups with either when using 129 grain interlock FB bullets. Both are good, if I was only going to go with one or the other, I would say H4350.
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Post by savage329 on Jan 10, 2012 12:14:10 GMT -5
IMR4350 for me is a love/hate relationship. My powder measure runs and hides under the bench when I open the can.LOLOLOLOL
Pesonally I love it despite its coarse makeup and have been using it for many, many years and IMHO it's just the ticket for the 165 Partition.
Ramshot Hunter should be given some serious consideration for the '06 as well. Very smooth metering.
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Post by Richard on Jan 10, 2012 21:28:37 GMT -5
Lunchbox...........listen to Rossman and use a powder which will pretty much fill your case. Powders such as H-414 will not fill the case and tend to conform to whatever angle/position your gun is in and ignition might not be equal. Maybe on a close shot this will not factor in but on a long shot it could? I prefer to hear a crunch just as the bullet is almost fully seated. That way you know the powder is not settling and there is not gaping air space. Richard
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Post by savage329 on Jan 11, 2012 0:58:15 GMT -5
60 grains of H4831 and a 165 PT would be an excellent load for hunting. NOT a speed demon for sure but darn effective. Had a few 760 carbines that loved it and my old Model 70 standard shoots it quite well. what bullet & weight? for the 150gn class bullets i find imr 4064 is an easy & accurate load,just one avenue. If you're primarily hunting deer it would be in your favor to give 50-52 grains of IMR4064 a serious look using the 150 Partition.
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Post by muznut on Feb 5, 2012 14:38:41 GMT -5
Acc. 2700 is a tack driver for me I use a mag primer because its ball powder,stay at least one grain from max data do to mag primer. I also use 4350 but the 2700 flows real nice through my hornaday measure usually within one tenth of a grain. ;D
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Post by muznut on Feb 24, 2012 15:59:50 GMT -5
I forgot to mention that I did have some hang fires with Acc2700 in very cold weather that's why I switched to mag primers even though the data called for standard after the switch every thing is hunky dory.
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Post by smokepole50 on Feb 24, 2012 22:22:18 GMT -5
The military used IMR4895 in there M2 Ball 30-06. It is a good medium burn rate powder and performs well in the 30-06 case.
Just another option.
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