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Post by cumminscowboy on Feb 25, 2009 14:55:51 GMT -5
I have decided to buy a savage, however I am a little dismayed at how expensive the guns are, I have decided on 2 models the cabelas savage or a laminate stocked regular model, mainly because I want a stock beefy enough to be a good accuracy platform, natchez is out of the laminate models, and cabelas wants 7 bills for one of theirs, why on earth are these guns so expensive?? steven's 200's sell for less than $300
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Post by killitgrillit on Feb 25, 2009 15:38:33 GMT -5
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Post by lwh723 on Feb 25, 2009 15:38:47 GMT -5
My father-in-law has his FFL, so I just bought mine through him.
Now I would hunt around for a used one with a messed up barrel (hopefully for really cheap) and just plan on doing the 45 pacnor barrel swap from the start. Or I would look into finding a beat up Rem700 and doing that conversion. Otherwise, Gunbroker or Natchez's has had the best deals that I've seen.
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Post by mike.dawson on Feb 25, 2009 16:06:56 GMT -5
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Post by cumminscowboy on Feb 25, 2009 16:17:47 GMT -5
My father-in-law has his FFL, so I just bought mine through him. Now I would hunt around for a used one with a messed up barrel (hopefully for really cheap) and just plan on doing the 45 pacnor barrel swap from the start. Or I would look into finding a beat up Rem700 and doing that conversion. Otherwise, Gunbroker or Natchez's has had the best deals that I've seen. I have access to an FFL from my gun club, how much money would this save |
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Post by rangeball on Feb 25, 2009 16:43:38 GMT -5
I would guess it depends on how much of his mark up he's willing to give you.
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Post by lwh723 on Feb 25, 2009 16:49:08 GMT -5
And honestly (after shipping & sales tax) buying from my father-in-law was barely (maybe $20..) cheaper than Natchez's. Small-time FFL dealers don't get the discounts the big boys do. Generally speaking, this is true for most of the stuff in his dealer catalogs. If you shop around, you can pretty much meet or beat most of his prices (especially when 6% sales tax as well as shipping is factored in).
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Post by indianabuck on Feb 25, 2009 18:42:59 GMT -5
Here in Indiana, muzzleloaders are not considered firearms, so no FFL required. I believe only the Encore is considered a firearm because of the different configs available. Try budsgunshop.com. I've had good experiences with them several times. They give the delivered price on thier site. Good Luck
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Post by mkjstep on Feb 25, 2009 20:32:55 GMT -5
believe it or not, I ordered mine form Wally World because noone in central Arkansas carried them in stock!
Price for the Camo synthetic stock SS rifle was $600 total price
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Post by younghunter86 on Feb 25, 2009 21:11:10 GMT -5
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Post by cumminscowboy on Feb 25, 2009 21:23:59 GMT -5
what does a laminate stock cost
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Post by Harley on Feb 25, 2009 21:29:17 GMT -5
FFL's are not required, anywhere, I think.
Harley
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Post by lwh723 on Feb 26, 2009 9:16:11 GMT -5
FFL's are not required, anywhere, I think. Harley To be clear, I wasn't saying that an FFL is required. Just that my father-in-law has an FFL, so I bought thtrough him at his dealer cost. Didn't mean to confuse the issue... |
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Post by Buckrub on Feb 26, 2009 10:08:01 GMT -5
Nobody has answered the man's questions as to why these are so expensive compared to a Stevens (Savage made) CF rifle.
MKJStep, which Walmart did you order from? Just curious.......Conway WM still sells rifles, but didn't know I could order a Savage ML..........
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Post by lwh723 on Feb 26, 2009 10:18:29 GMT -5
Nobody has answered the man's questions as to why these are so expensive compared to a Stevens (Savage made) CF rifle. MKJStep, which Walmart did you order from? Just curious.......Conway WM still sells rifles, but didn't know I could order a Savage ML.......... I'm guessing they get a lot more TLC than a Stevens (just like Stoger vs Benelli). They also have the accu trigger. Aslo, they're not that much more expensive than a regular centerfire rifle from Savage. They're still cheaper than a TC Encore.  |
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Post by mkjstep on Feb 26, 2009 19:21:54 GMT -5
Nobody has answered the man's questions as to why these are so expensive compared to a Stevens (Savage made) CF rifle. MKJStep, which Walmart did you order from? Just curious.......Conway WM still sells rifles, but didn't know I could order a Savage ML.......... I ordered mine form the Bryant Wal mart. It is a little known fact that you can special order from Wally. just ask to see the gun catalog or the special order catalog or whatever. Had to pay first and then they ordered. Shoulda seen the dudes when it arrived. FFL form or not? they didn't have a clue! |
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Post by Buckrub on Feb 27, 2009 10:22:06 GMT -5
Curious again, which did they decide? I can envision their confusion.....wonder how it turned out.
I actually ordered a Howa .22-250 from them years ago out of a catalog, but that was because they had the gun in the display but not the caliber. I guess I didn't realize you could go in and 'browse' the catalog. That's the part I don't think folks know about. I guess you'd just walk in and say "I might be interested in a gun, can I look at the catalog?"..... I do remember paying first, but best I remember I paid like half......and then when gun came in I went to LayAway and paid the other half. Long time ago, bad memory, not sure, but I think that's what I did.
As to the price for a Savage ML10, I'd say that they are priced generally equivalent to a good Ruger or Remington or other Savage CF rifle. Comparing to a Stevens is not quite fair, that's a bottom tier rifle. I wish Academy Sports would carry them, they are the cheapest on earth for ammunition and weapons that I've found.
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Post by mawgie on Feb 27, 2009 20:31:40 GMT -5
I ordered mine from Natchez (SS Lam). They shipped right to my door here in the RepubliK of Upstate NY. Their price, delivered, was $125.oo less than my local Gander Mountain.
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Post by cumminscowboy on Feb 28, 2009 1:41:00 GMT -5
thanks for the help guys I went with the ss lam model from tin star, they had the best deal I could find short of somehow getting cabelas to honor the camo ss price natchez has, which I was unsuccessful in getting them to do. oh well, the 2" shorter barrel will be a little handier to hunt with and the laminate stock will look nice
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Post by Guessed on Feb 28, 2009 13:07:50 GMT -5
Oh, Man...Oh, No...Two inches SHORTER! That's gonna' knock your desired 300 yard laser beam trajectory right into the dirt(literally). Perhaps,,,,, if you took a Sims and a Kick-Eze and stacked them atop each other on the butt of your new gun you might be able to use a huge amount of H322 to compensate for that weak barrel.
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Post by younghunter86 on Feb 28, 2009 14:58:09 GMT -5
cowboy-
Great choice! I have the SS/laminate as well. I think you'll be happier in the long run with the laminate stock for your end use vs the synthetic on the cabelas. In terms of the 2" shorter barrel, don't worry, you'll still be able to shoot as fast as your shoulder will allow.
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Post by cumminscowboy on Feb 28, 2009 19:07:08 GMT -5
I may be wrong and some one correct me if I am, but in most cases shooting smokeless loads a shorter barrel isn't going to really hurt you since we are using faster powders that tend to burn up before they get to the end of the barrel
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 19:55:51 GMT -5
I may be wrong and some one correct me if I am, but in most cases shooting smokeless loads a shorter barrel isn't going to really hurt you since we are using faster powders that tend to burn up before they get to the end of the barrel I lost about 100 fps when I cut 3" off the stock 24" Savage barrel. With 4759 There was no drop in velocity. I didn't lose a thing in accuracy. Zen |
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