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Post by rangeball on Feb 23, 2009 16:41:45 GMT -5
I downloaded the savage manual to take a look at their recommended book loads. I was/am most interested in N110 and wanted to see what they recommended. www.savagearms.com/images/pdf/manuals/MLII_loads.pdfWas surprised that they show 42 grains for both a 250 and 300 grain bullet, with muzzle velocities of 2305 for 250 gr and 2220 fps for 300 gr. I've don't recall ever seeing N110 as a recommendation for a 300 gr bullet here. Is that because many who shoot 300 gr want more speed? Has 42 gr of N110 with a 300 gr bullet proven accurate? Ballisticallly both loads do what I want them to do to 200+ yards. |
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Post by Dave W on Feb 23, 2009 17:32:05 GMT -5
You might have to adjust the powder charge a little but it is very accurate with the 300 Rem. Tar 12 has shot some impressive groups also with N110 and I think he was using the 300 XTP.
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Post by 161 on Feb 23, 2009 20:16:45 GMT -5
I shot 38.5 Gr. N110 last weekend behind a 300 Rem. JHP .458. BCR It ran about 2125 FPS. But the primers were hard to get out of the bolt face like they are when you shoot a primer to dry everything out. I assume that is because of a lack of back pressure. I bumped it up and they came out just fine. I'm not after light speed with the savage just want good consistent cold bore shots.
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Post by sw on Feb 23, 2009 20:34:20 GMT -5
Yes, VV-110 will work very well with a 300g bullet. It is accurate, clean, extremely non-temp sens and surprisingly close to the velocity of a 250g bullet shot with the same wt of powder. Are there more efficient powders to use? Absolutely, there are a # of slower powders that lend themselves better to a 300g bullet: VV-120 beling the most well known. If I wanted to shoot a 300g bullet, and if I wanted to shoot it up to 250 yds, and wanted extreme accuracy and no temp sensitivity, I would shoot a 300SST/HPH-12/24,WW, 43-44g VV-110 and then sight in at 3" hi @ 100 yds and see where it hits at 150,200,250, and just for kicks, 300yds. Hope this helps.
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Post by rangeball on Feb 24, 2009 9:32:09 GMT -5
Thanks Fellas  You bet it helps How does the 300 gr SST perform terminally? More prone to expansion than the BO and less prone to fragging than the 250 sst? And is the WW an essential part of the load, and why? |
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Post by chuck41 on Feb 24, 2009 11:31:37 GMT -5
I would have liked to try the V110, but the only one of the book powders readily available around here is 4759. I understand from others that the two are very similar.
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Post by dwhunter on Feb 24, 2009 12:04:16 GMT -5
Out of my HB 50 cal 43gr of VV N110 has always been my favorite powder with 250 gr bullets and now I'm shooting 275gr Parker BE's with the same sub moa groups. It ought be just as good with the 300 grainers also.
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Post by tar12 on Feb 24, 2009 16:58:54 GMT -5
You should have no trouble at all finding accurate loads with V110 and bullet weights ranging from 250-300.I have shot some outstanding groups with the N110 and the BO and XTP.Try it,you will like it!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2009 0:21:27 GMT -5
You should have no trouble at all finding accurate loads with V110 and bullet weights ranging from 250-300.I have shot some outstanding groups with the N110 and the BO and XTP.Try it,you will like it! Tar... What speeds were you getting with N110 and the 300gn bullets. It being a faster burning powder I'm thinking it will shoot well out of my 21"barrel. Zen |
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Post by bluedog on Feb 25, 2009 9:42:02 GMT -5
What sabot is being used with the Parker BE 275 grain in the Savage with N110?
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Post by tar12 on Feb 25, 2009 10:25:49 GMT -5
You should have no trouble at all finding accurate loads with V110 and bullet weights ranging from 250-300.I have shot some outstanding groups with the N110 and the BO and XTP.Try it,you will like it! Tar... What speeds were you getting with N110 and the 300gn bullets. It being a faster burning powder I'm thinking it will shoot well out of my 21"barrel. Zen A solid 2200 fps.with 42 grn of V110 |
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Post by billc on Feb 25, 2009 18:06:12 GMT -5
Killed 2 deer this year with 42 gr VV110 and 300 gr .458 Remingtons and BCR. Does all I want for accuracy and speed.
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Post by sw on Feb 25, 2009 19:52:21 GMT -5
I think the 300SST is a very adequate deer bullet. This bullet being launched at 2300'/sec or below and striking the deer at something lower than that will result in decent terminal performance. It is a highly accurate bullet with a fairly decent BC. The 250TMZ or Barnes original may well have more classic performance but all three bullets should produce a dead deer easily. I shoot the 300SST out of my 453 PacNor. It is the bullet I chose. I've killed a few deer with it and have never lost one. It is the 250SST at very high velocity that has caused most of the "bad" press concerning the SST/SW line of bullets.
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Post by rangeball on Feb 26, 2009 9:53:58 GMT -5
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Post by rangeball on Feb 26, 2009 15:53:42 GMT -5
One more questions. After getting a go to hunting load developed, I do plan on trying to get 200 grain bullets to work, both .45 and .40, saboted. Assuming I am able to work out accuracy and sabot drilling, will N110 work for this weight as well? At what grain range and what is the max speed I can expect with it? Thanks |
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