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Post by huntrrr on Feb 16, 2009 8:19:33 GMT -5
I was wondering which sabot is normally the choice for the 300 xtp . I have both the short black mmp as well as the hph 12. They load good and snug. Just seems the hph 12 is a little long for this bullet. I find the harvester crush ribs are way to loose with the .452 bullets in my gun.
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Post by KerryB on Feb 16, 2009 9:28:11 GMT -5
The only way to know which sabot your barrel likes is to test fit the bullet/sabot combo by pushing them through an unloaded barrel. You want a good tight fit or ignition may suffer. Many guys trim the longer sabots with a pair of nail clippers. Just trim them as far as you can push the sabot lip into the clipper.................
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2009 9:29:52 GMT -5
huntrrr;
I use the Harvester Red Crushed Rib sabots with .451-.452 bullets in my Savage. They make for a snug fit. The short mmp blacks work as well for many Savages.
Zen
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Post by Harley on Feb 16, 2009 9:31:42 GMT -5
I'd add a note to KerryB's response: the pressure fit of the bullet/sabot down a clean barrel is less than it will be after you foul the barrel with your first shot. Keep it in mind.
Harley
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Post by fowlplay on Feb 16, 2009 9:46:03 GMT -5
My gun liked the Harvester short black sabots. They fit the 300 XTP like it was made for it. Listen to Kerry, the only way to see if your gun will like them is by trying them. There is no guarantees when it comes to sabot fit. We can only tell you of what worked in our gun. You may get several recommendations.
Steve
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Post by onecardchuck on Feb 16, 2009 10:18:50 GMT -5
I am with Panhandle on the red crush rib with .451 and .452 bullets really gave me a nice snug fit and I got great results.
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Post by DBinNY on Feb 16, 2009 11:35:56 GMT -5
ditto what fowlplay said.
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Post by Richard on Feb 16, 2009 15:33:25 GMT -5
I know this happened to me one time........I was calling the #4500 Hornady 300 gr. bullet an "XTP" When it is not! The .452 300 gr. is the XTP and its .452". And yes, Rec Crush ribs with .452's and Black Crush ribs with .458"bullets, which is what the #4500 bullet is! And as Harley said, clean barrels and dirty barrels will encounter different seating pressures. If I am not using two hands to seat my bullet, it is too loose.
Richard
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Post by huntrrr on Feb 18, 2009 8:04:02 GMT -5
Thanks for all the input I have been shooting muzzleloader's for years but I am new to smokeless. My gun seems to load .452 bullets with the mmp hph 12 tight but loadable. It also seems to load .458 bullets with orange mmp about the same . I have some black crushed rib harvesters sabots but with a .452 bullet it just about falls down the barrel ( way to loose).I hope to get back to the range this weekend thanks again for all your input...... Huntrrr
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Post by KerryB on Feb 18, 2009 8:15:39 GMT -5
Thanks for all the input I have been shooting muzzleloader's for years but I am new to smokeless. My gun seems to load .452 bullets with the mmp hph 12 tight but loadable. It also seems to load .458 bullets with orange mmp about the same . I have some black crushed rib harvesters sabots but with a .452 bullet it just about falls down the barrel ( way to loose).I hope to get back to the range this weekend thanks again for all your input...... Huntrrr With those .458 bullets you have, your orange MMP sabots are indeed the proper sabot as well as those Harvester black crushed rib sabots. Although my rifle likes the Harvesters a little better than the MMP's. If you put a .452 bullet in either of those sabots, they will fall down the barrel just like you found. You need a good tight fit for proper ignition and if you can push the combo down a dirty barrel with somewhere around 50-70lbs of pressure, then you are in the right ball park. JMHO...................KerryB |
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