I remember that posting, I added my two cents to it.
But that is not a review of someone who owns the rifle. I have the instruction Manual, but would like to hear from a gent holding it in his hands.
Bigmoose,
Try this. I hope it works. Sorry I don't have the pictures.
Steve
...with the new Savage 10ML BP!
This past week a brand-spanking new Cabelas/Savage 10ML BP arrived at Brownsferry Road. I have to say I was overwhelmed with this muzzleloader! Most of what I have heard about this muzzleloader are completely untrue and you can be assured this is about as good as it gets with an inline muzzleloader.
Now I am very accustomed to Savage muzzleloaders. This is at least the sixth one I have owned. One thing that HASN'T changed on the 10ML BP is the inclusion of Savage's Accu-Trigger. This is probably the best production muzzleloader trigger on the market. Mine broke at 1lb 13ounces STRAIGHT OUT OF THE BOX! There HAVE been many changes to this muzzleloader when compared to a 10ML-II. When one first opens the box several changes jump out at you..
Of course the first change is a longer barrel. Barrel length is exactly 24 inches, inside length from muzzle to breechplug compared to 22 inches for a 10ML-II. This was done in order to give higher velocities with blackpowder and blackpowder substitutes such as Pyrodex, Triple Se7en, and Blackhorn 209.
The second item one notices is the stock. Of course it is great looking in Cabela's Next G-1 camo....but mostly it's the stock ITSELF! This stock has been beefed up internally to improve stiffness/durability! NOW...this is a GREAT synthetic stock! Gone are the days of the 10ML-II Tupperware synthetic stock! It also seems as if the stock material itself has been upgraded although I have not confirmed this.
Still on the stock...the next item is the inclusion of an actual RECOIL PAD and a GREAT one at that! Adios to the hockey puck butt plate!
Another improvement...the ramrod thimble has been beefed up and is ventilated to boot:
The bolt now features a jeweled look to it and is quite snazzy! I took a picture of if but I was at the range so early this AM and it was cloudy/raining and the picture is quite BLURRY!
Seems like I am missing SOMETHING......
OH YEAH! It has a new BREECH PLUG!
See the difference?
The 10ML BP breechplug featues a 3/8 inch socket head and they INCLUDE the socket head WITH THE MUZZLELOADER!
New 10ML BP breechplug LEFT.... 10ML-II breechplug RIGHT
The two pictures above show the 10ML-II breechplug wrench
10ML BP breechplug wrench.
ALL THIS comes together to make one SWEET looking package:
NOW to the shooting!
ALL shots made with 120gr Blackhorn 209 by volume.
It started out a MISERABLE morning to go to the range. It was DARK, cloudy, misty, and rainy. In fact my 110gr Blackhorn 209 target was RUINED(I DO have some of the 110gr velocity data though). This is especially sad because the 275gr Parker Ballistic Extremes shot into practically ONE HOLE! I couldn't re-shoot the 110gr loads becase I had other muzzleloaders to shoot! So all I am going to talk about it the 120gr results....
This is going to be a GREAT bullet and this is the first time I have shot it! It is BASICALLY the same bullet as the TMZ but with a FLAT BASE so one may use ANY SABOT THEY CHOOSE! This is so important so one may tailor the bullet/sabot combination to ones muzzleloader. In this case I tossed the EZ sabot and used an MMP HPH-12 sabot and it seemed to be the cat's meow!
MV- 2025fps
This was using the 300gr T/C Bonded Shockwave. I used a Harvester short black sabot and it seated a little too loosely. But accuracy was still pretty good.
MV- 1963fps
The Parker Ballistic Extreme 275gr is practically ALWAYS a great shooter. As I mentioned the 110gr group was practically one hole. I used a MMP short black sabot and the fit was perfect.
MV- 2028fps
I tried the 300gr Bonded Shockwave again this time with a MMP short black sabot. It really was a little TOO tight...HPH-12 would have probably been perfect..
MV- 1990fps
I ALSO tried a 350gr Hornady FPB. Ignition was inconsistant and incomplete during the first two shots tried so testing for this bullet was terminated......
So let's talk about price...
The Cabela's/Savage 10ML BP retails for $699.99. Now that's really a LOT of money for a muzzleloader. So what does one get for $700.00?
1. The strongest muzzleloader action available.
2. The best factory muzzleloader trigger in the industry.
3. The only muzzleloader function fired before it leaves the factory.
4. The ONLY muzzleloader breechplug that can be cleaned from stem to stern and can be restored to practically as new condition.
5. A muzzleloader that will shoot with the best of them.
6. Cabela's gun case INCLUDED.
7. VERY nice base/rings INCLUDED.(although I didn't use them)
8. 3/8 inch socket head INCLUDED
9. Standard 10ML BP accessories- short starter, ventliner & stock Allen wrenches, Cable Lock firearms lock, 2 extra ventliners, small amount breechplug/ventliner lube, earplugs, target, and owners/users manual.
10. The best customer service I have ever had the pleasure of dealing with.
I think it would be $700.00 well spent!
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Chuck
NRA Endowment Member
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Sam208
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Joined: 12 Feb 2009
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Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2009 8:10 pm Post subject:
fine looking gun big
sorry i dont know if you wanted reply are not but i was wanting to know dose the barnes T EZ seem to be a good bullet? I got a Omega and cant get the TMZ they are to tight would the EZ be ok ?
thanks
Sam208
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