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Post by gunny on Aug 14, 2010 4:58:00 GMT -5
In using an elevated base ,with say a 3and 1/2 to 10 Leupold VX3 be a benifit ?With a duplex reticle?with a Booneand Crocket reticle? Out to 300 yds? Can it be a detriment? For the Savage 50 Cal ,20,15,10 or 0 moa ? Thanks Don
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Post by deadeye on Aug 14, 2010 7:46:42 GMT -5
i would not no of an advantage for a elevated base for mz unless scope does not have enough vertical for you,or for proper fit etc. reticles are personal preference,mine is the standard mil-dot or a moa reticle,for me simple to use w/ a rangefinder & range-card
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Post by gunny on Aug 14, 2010 15:31:39 GMT -5
I do have a 1500 Bushnell ARC Rangefinder.  |
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Post by Billy on Aug 14, 2010 15:36:49 GMT -5
I looked at the Farrell website. What does the 30, 20, 15, 10, or 0 moa mean? I also see they list a mount for the Savage ML and also one for the Savage 10 short action. What would be the difference?
Billy
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2010 16:42:40 GMT -5
everything above 0 is designed for long range stuff, they have elevation built in to get more clicks of elevation out of a scope for the " way over yonder " shots. my farrel base is 0 moa but I think the short action has the same hole spacing as the ml but you might want to check with Rossman, the man knows everything.
you will like the farrel, it has room to get to the plug but keep in mind the rings will need to be lower height because of the base heigth. also they recommend bedding the base upon installation.......Bill
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Post by anthony on Aug 14, 2010 17:52:19 GMT -5
The VX3 has enough Elevation to dial in elevation changes to 300 yards without a the extended MOA base. Generally if you are using a retice with hashmarks for long shots you will not be using clicks for elevation adjustment and therefore the holdover points in the scope will allow you pick a reference point in the crosshairs that will intersect with the trajectory. I am using a Leupold VX 2 and I dial in elevation adjustments to 300 yards with a o MOA Base with no problems. If you are going to purchase a Farrel base Order it thru, USAlltheway.com They are cheaper than ordering from Ken directly.
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Post by gunny on Aug 14, 2010 17:55:33 GMT -5
Im hoping Rossman weighs in on the subject, Im planing on going with the 3.5x10 VX3. 40MM. Don,t know if it has enough moa to reach 300 yards? Anybody else shooting the leupold?
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Post by gunny on Aug 14, 2010 18:08:40 GMT -5
Anthony thanks for the heads up.Don p.s tried the web sight and could,nt get in?
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Post by fishhawk on Aug 14, 2010 18:33:25 GMT -5
Any one piece base used on most Savage bolt guns needs to be bedded due to taper in the receiver caused by finish sanding. This is why front bases touch the recoil lug. By Savages dimension specs the receiver is "supposed" to be larger the the lug, but by the time it is sanded to look good it is under size and usually more under-size in front of the port. This can be checked with a straightedge laid lengthwise down the top of the receiver. Even if one checks out straight the surface is still distorted from sanding causing poor base contact even with two piece bases. This can be seen or felt by removing the stock and on the bottom of the receiver the lathe marks are still there and the edge where the lathe marks meet the sanded area is usually quite noticeable. Properly bedding a one piece base on a tapered action is trickier than bedding two piece bases. If two piece bases are used they are usually not aligned properly due to the taper ( the front of the front base is usually tipped down). This requires ring lapping or Burris signature rings. My personal preference is bedded two piece steel weaver style bases and Burris signature zee rings. These are high recoil guns, any mount or alignment problems will show up as poi shifting or broken scopes. If you want a Farrell 0moa matte base that fits an accu-trigger 10mlII I think I have a used one around here, pm me.
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Post by 13point on Aug 17, 2010 16:22:22 GMT -5
I have one of these for an Accutrigger model if you are interested. I would take $25 shipping included. It is the Sav.RTS.1.0.
Let me know if you are interested
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Post by Billy on Aug 17, 2010 18:59:33 GMT -5
I have one of these for an Accutrigger model if you are interested. I would take $25 shipping included. It is the Sav.RTS.1.0. Let me know if you are interested PM sent. Billy |
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Post by gunny on Aug 17, 2010 20:33:02 GMT -5
I appreciate the offer but i picked one up from FishHawk. I think he said Billy was looking for one. Thanks again Don
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Post by 13point on Aug 17, 2010 20:37:26 GMT -5
Received PM from Billy, Thanks
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Post by rossman40 on Aug 18, 2010 2:07:01 GMT -5
With a 250gr bullet slow at @2100fps your looking at a 20 MOA drop at 400yds so if your scope has a lowly 40MOA elevation adjustment and you start off close to center your good to go. But as Fishhawk hinted if you start off screwed up you can burn up your adjustment just getting zeroed. When I first installed my Farrell if I tightened the front I had a .030" gap under the rear. If I tightened the rear I had a gap at the front. I found out that if I tightened the rear first I used up almost all of my "up" just getting zeroed. So it was a shim and bed for mine, a older "flattop".
Finishing is one thing but you also have to remember that Savage actions are induction hardened after milling, supposedly to save on tool wear. So the actions have a slight warp to them and the design of the ML action makes the more prone to warping at the "port".
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