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Post by edge on Feb 11, 2009 22:51:58 GMT -5
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Post by petev on Feb 11, 2009 23:31:01 GMT -5
My computer didnt take the download, but bin Laden has been living for 7 1/2 years after 9/11. I guess we should have taken a poll after Pearl Harbor on how hard everbody thought it would be. We fought this stupid war in Iraq, and pussyfooted around in Afghanistan with a Division or less in the field. You're not alone Edge, I admit that most of the people that I talk to think that we, the U.S., would not be able to defeat the Al Quada in Afghanistan, and capture bin Laden. I can't understand that thinking, and I think that we almost captured him, and had we more troops in the field, and hadn't gotten diverted with Iraq, that we would have. Maybe I'm in the minority. Troops that I talked to returning from both places feel the way I do. Have at it, I've said what I wanted to, in a few sentences.
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Post by chuck41 on Feb 12, 2009 0:10:06 GMT -5
Afghanistan has huge mountainous areas surrounding it that are safe havens for the Taliban/Al Quada. The political climate does not allow for openly pursuing such forces into those areas. The political climate outside of the main cities is unstable at best and there is no history of centralized national control in the country. This is a combination that is highly reminiscent of Viet Nam and to a lesser degree Korea. Add to that the very highly difficult logistics problem of supplying troops in an area completely surrounded by either direct enemies of the US, puppet governments of direct enemies, and unstable governments where access is unlikely because of local opposition and you have the makings of a huge mess.
Afghanistan has all the makings of a situation many times more difficult than Iraq. In no way is it even close to over there. As long as the bad guys have protected areas from which to rearm, regroup, and reattack there will continue to be a mess there unless the bad guys encounter almost total local opposition to their presence, and that is a very long way off. A country that gets it main source of income from raising opium poppys can not be expected to act rationally, at least not by western standards.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Feb 12, 2009 5:40:56 GMT -5
Your goat was walking down the street.
What a mess.
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Post by edge on Feb 12, 2009 6:51:39 GMT -5
Your goat was walking down the street. What a mess. ;D I heard someone talking about their trip to Afghanistan a couple of years ago. They hoped to go back sometime in the future to find that they have become a Third World Nation! IMO, if we build them roads and schools and factories. Raise their standard of living to that of 3rd World, then perhaps in 20 or 30 years they will help us find where Bin Laden died. For right now we are on our own! edge. PS "We fought this stupid war in Iraq" Personally it was fought very poorly, but, after 9/11 and with all of the intelligence it was the correct place to fight. Since the late 90's regime change was the official US policy, and he had WMD's that nobody knew where they were. |
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