No Peep Options

[ET]

Well I’m at doing research again for my Bow setup and was looking to see if any other options like the Anchor Site was out there.
Okay there’s the one like the Anchor site called Timberline No Peep.
Then there’s the one called Hind Sight that sort of caught my eye because I guess you could say scope affect without the magnification. Having shot so much with a scope I kind of feel drawn to it.

www.bowhunting.net/evaluation/2003/04-Timberline-NoPeep.html

www.hindsightco.com/

If anyone has had any experience with the above mentioned I would appreciate any comments or pros and cons that you might see.
Or if you know of any other options out there to look at would be appreciated.



Ed

[Dave W]

Slap a kisser button on and shoot without a peep. Have not used a peep since I had one fill up with water in a pouring rain. Drew back and could not see a thing. By the time I figured out what was wrong the deer had passed through the shooting lane.

It takes practice to become accurate and consistently anchor the same each time but that is par for the course no matter what when it comes to archery.

[Harley]

Dave W is right, of course; you don't HAVE to have a fancy anchoring aid; when I first began shooting a bow in the 1950's, there weren't any options; we just learned to anchor at a comfortable point.

That said, though, I really like the Anchor Sight. I don't claim to be a purist, and anything that helps me shoot better gets my attention.

Harley

[Harley]

Ed, I just looked at both the sights you highlighted; the Timberline No-Peep appears identical in function to the Anchor Sight for a lot less money.

The Hindsight looks perfectly reasonable, also.

I"ve now seen a total of four different sights using more or less this same principle; maybe peeps are becoming an endangered species.

Harley

[huntingmike]

May 3, 2010 18:55:32 GMT -5 ET said:

Well I’m at doing research again for my Bow setup and was looking to see if any other options like the Anchor Site was out there.
Okay there’s the one like the Anchor site called Timberline No Peep.
Then there’s the one called Hind Sight that sort of caught my eye because I guess you could say scope affect without the magnification. Having shot so much with a scope I kind of feel drawn to it.

www.bowhunting.net/evaluation/2003/04-Timberline-NoPeep.html

www.hindsightco.com/

If anyone has had any experience with the above mentioned I would appreciate any comments or pros and cons that you might see.
Or if you know of any other options out there to look at would be appreciated.



Ed

When I shot a vertical bow I used a string knock for a reference point on the string. It works like a rear sight to line up with the pins. (That was before glasses.)

I tried both of the sights you mentioned. I sent both back. It was not better than the nock on the string at that time. The timberline was better than the hindsight in MHO. Any of them would be better than a peep.

Mike

[ET]

DW

Thanks for mentioning that option but to be honest never did like the kisser button when I tried that years ago. I agree I will be in need of plenty of practice when I get rolling even before trying my luck in the field. Years ago (yeah Old Man) ;D just my hand contact under my jaw line worked pretty good and would have decently hit my mark for a kill shot out to 25-yds. Days gone by.

Harley

Anything that helps shoot better for accuracy is where I am at also. Now wearing glasses I would prefer something at the riser to aid in my shooting.
One thing I got to do is quite searching or I’ll never make up mind with all the temptations out there.

www.iqbowsights.com/

Ouch, Pricey

Huntingmike

Appreciate you taking the time of sharing your experience/opinion on these no peep options I mentioned. Peep is no longer even a consideration for me with glasses so that is why I seek other options open to me. In this case time is on my side before making any decision on what to eventually buy. With comments graciously provided by you and others the decision process will be easier when the time comes.


Ed

[Harley]

My son just called from Houston, TX to say he's coming in this weekend as a Mother's Day surprise; he's going to be surprised, also, I think, because I just ordered another left hand Anchor Sight. I'll tell him it's for his birthday (September).

The point is---- the Anchor Sight is the real deal.

Harley

[ET]

First off I want to thank everyone again for responding to this thread.

Secondly I’ve decided I am not going to use any of the above at this point in time. The replies have made me take a closer look at all the functions of no string peep operations and the one point that always comes up is a consistent hold of the bow to establish a repeatable head alignment for an Anchor Point when taking aim.

After doing some preliminary experimenting with eye alignment on my bow this past week I feel I can do this the tinker way with some old bow sight parts lying around and some additional material that will require some careful work on my part. Even my mini-lathe will play a roll here.

Anyway hope to stay out of trouble with the extra free time on my hands filling it with a new challenge.
If this doesn’t pan out for some reason then the Anchor Sight is my next consideration.



Ed

[Jed]

Ed,

Even though it sounds like you've made up your mind, I thought I would chime in and let you know how my experience with the No-Peep has been.

I began shooting a bow two years ago, and used an old Bear compound from the 1980s. It didn't have a peep, and I used my fingers to release the string. I got used to shooting it without a peep and was comfortable with it.

Then last year, I bought a new (to me) Diamond Black Ice. I did not want to go to a peep because of several of the problems associated with it. So on the archerytalk.com/vb classifieds, I picked up a No-Peep for around $20. After installing it, I am so glad that I went that route.

The great thing to me about the NO-PEEP is that it "checks" your anchor point for you. After a lot of practice, a person pretty much develops and feels a solid anchor point. For me, a quick glance at the No-Peep tells me I'm there. The fiber optic is bright enough to be seen in very low light, and it keeps my anchor point consistent even if I'm leaning out of my stand to make a shot.

Check out that site (www.archerytalk.com/vb) and see if you could pick one up in the classifieds...if you're not a member there, I am, and I'll buy it for you and have it shipped to you. They are pretty easy to sell again because a lot of guys want to try them.

Any other questions about it, please ask!

[ET]

Jed

I do appreciate all replies to my posting for help because I can learn much more from other’s experience in a particular field or area of interest. You’ve provided valuable information and added a gracious offer if needed. To me this reveals the sincerity of your individuality in wanting to help. “Thank You” for posting and the gracious offer.


The only thing about my mind being made up is to try something different for anchor alignment at the moment. I’m almost there with my component construction and now need to see it through. Just have a few screws to pick up and one more different aperture to construct.



Archery Talk Forum is a great site also.



Ed

[Jed]

Ed,

Very interesting contraption you have there...if I could relate it to gun-parts, it looks like a rear aperture sight with a front post. I'll be interested to see how it looks on your bow...you'll have to post a pic when you get it all assembled.

ArcheryTalk is a good website...a lot more mindless chatter than here at dougs, but good information when you need it!

Hope your manufactured solution works out well for you!

[ET]

Jed

You’ve basically got the concept right except this aperture is for bow and head alignment only, Not Aiming. This should accomplish the same thing as a No Peep or Anchor Sight for repeated same position hold result with the bow. I hope to get the second alignment point on the top section of the Pin Guard.

To give you a basic idea how it will go together here are some pictures.





The next picture is to show how the hole aperture is seen but will not fall in the yardage pin area when properly set up.



Hope this helps with how my perceived concept should work. Will still need to do a little cleanup work and have another rear aperture to assembly for a comparison, as too what my eyes are more comfortable with.


Ed

[Jed]

Ed,

That looks really good. Nice, simple, not too distracting...and should be effective.

One idea you might consider for the pin that you will line up that rear aperture with. Instead of using a metal pin, you should see about getting a replacement sight pin that has some fiber optic wound on it. In early morning and late evening, it will be hard to line up the metal pin in the metal aperture. But if you have a strand of fiber optic on the pin, it will gather any light and still allow you to use the metal rear aperture.

Hope this is possible for you to accomplish!

[ET]

May 19, 2010 21:09:34 GMT -5 Jed said:

Ed,

That looks really good. Nice, simple, not too distracting...and should be effective.

One idea you might consider for the pin that you will line up that rear aperture with. Instead of using a metal pin, you should see about getting a replacement sight pin that has some fiber optic wound on it. In early morning and late evening, it will be hard to line up the metal pin in the metal aperture. But if you have a strand of fiber optic on the pin, it will gather any light and still allow you to use the metal rear aperture.

Hope this is possible for you to accomplish!

Jed

That is an excellent idea of using fiber optics for enhanced visibility. Ideally if I could get a strand say .090” and drill a horizontal hole in line with my pins through the top portion of the sight guard for location that would be a grand slam.

You know someone can come up with a workable concept to try but not have a clear picture of it for optimum performance. Now another person with a slightly different insight from looking at it from another angle can really add enhancement to the idea.

Thank you very much for your input that is greatly appreciated.
Now to see what is available out there or what I can adapt to make this happen.
Hopefully my 3” fusion vanes will arrive soon and I can get this ball rolling in the near future.

Also thanks for those kinds words about my project and you described exactly what I’m seeking. One other point I can add is this setup is so light I don’t even feel any difference in weight when attached to the Bow so that’s a bonus.


Ed