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Post by lunchbox on Feb 26, 2010 6:56:06 GMT -5
At one of my local shops the guy has some powder that he can not find out much info on. He says he has reloaded most of his life and cant recall ever seeing it. Does anyone know about this powder and if so what is it used for?
tuball 8000
Thanks
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Post by lanenebraska on Feb 26, 2010 15:23:41 GMT -5
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Post by lunchbox on Feb 26, 2010 18:36:14 GMT -5
thanks
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Post by rossman40 on Feb 27, 2010 0:35:49 GMT -5
It is Vectan powder and is made in France. Grafs use to peddle it when it was sold under Noble Sport back maybe 5-7 years ago. Supposedly SNPE/Vectan/Noblesport pulled out of the US market about then and hasn't been back since. Couple of years ago the European powder companies teamed up to form EURENCO and things have gotten a bit screwed up. VV powders are still marketed by Namo Laupa. Bofors still supplies Alliant with some of the Reloader series and your seeing the Norma powders again. PB Clermont is still supplying Western Powder (they supply 7 of the 9 Ramshot powders). SNPE was still peddling Vectan (at least in Europe).
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Post by lunchbox on Feb 27, 2010 7:44:45 GMT -5
The guy at the shop down here has some 8lb jugs for sale. He is asking 100 a piece for them.
Are they any good to use?
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Post by cfvickers on Feb 27, 2010 9:07:48 GMT -5
Rossman, you seem to be in the know on this stuff, so I saw a name I haven't seen in a while. Does Bofors still make gun barrels, or is this a different manufacturer. I had an older tikka 243 when I was a kid and it had a bofors barrel, that thing shot amazing.
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Post by rossman40 on Feb 28, 2010 12:49:02 GMT -5
You have to figure the Bofors hammer mill started in like the mid-1600s when Sweden was like the largest weapons maker in the world. Alfred Noble bought Bofors in the 1890s and set up his powder mill nearby. Most of Noble's holdings went under the Celsius Group which was a big chunk of Swedish industry which SAAB bought in 1999 and started downsizing. The heavy gun divsion was bought by United Defense Inc (FMC and BMY) which in turn was bought by BAE in 2005 after supposedly a pretty good battle by General Dynamics (supposedly GD offered more money but done POed a bunch of people with a lot of influence on the deal). Saab kept the missile division and something about the Swedish Government felt the powder mill was a national defense asset and wanted it to stay in Swedish ownership so it stayed under SAAB control under the Bofors Dynamics group from what I have been told. The Northern Europeans like to work in "partnership" deals and trying to find out who actually owns what if the party ends is tough. Good examples are Nammo, EURENCO and RAUG. You see a lot of it with the Finnish companies, even though they are no longer communist the government has a whole lot of control over the companies (even to the point of owning controlling stock interest). If you say Beretta owns Tikka and Sako you will be corrected in that it is a "strategic partnership" that Beretta payed dearly for. Supposedly Beretta is negotiating for a similar deal with Swarovski.
There was a time in the past when Sako and Tikka used Bofors barrels but then they stopped and the barrels they started putting out on their own were POS. Then they must have bought top of the line equipment because the hammer forged barrels they are putting out now are among the best supposedly.
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Post by cfvickers on Mar 1, 2010 21:52:15 GMT -5
Thanks for the quick history. I had this rifle 25 years ago so it could have been either aftermarket or factory. Don't know. it did say Bofors on it though, and would shoot 1 inch groups from my 7 year old hands. I kept it until I convinced my dad I needed a 6.5x55 when I was 14. I have never changed my mind on the 6.5 either. My favorite caliber ever.
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