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Post by squirrelhawker on Dec 23, 2009 11:51:13 GMT -5
I posted a while back about a gun I am putting together. Savage dual port target action. pac-nor 45 barrel. H-S precision stock. I got busy with other matters( not hunting  ) and still dont have it together yet  . I did get the breech plug and priming system though the other day. I was able to get my hands on a case of federal LR magnum match primers from my salesman a few weeks back. I drew up plans for the plug and primer carriers I wanted to go with & gave it to my machinist buddy. I guess some go with cut down cartridge cases or even the 45 acp (Edge, I think). I wanted to make this my own..ha ha. Here are a few pics.   I can use this same plug with 209's by changing boltheads if I wanted.   I removed the ejector parts from the std. bolthead for my application.   The flame travel is under .800" thru a savage-type vent liner. |
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Post by edge on Dec 23, 2009 12:09:19 GMT -5
Looks great, I like it  edge. |
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Post by chuck41 on Dec 23, 2009 15:49:53 GMT -5
Looks really great. Will be looking forward to hearing how it shoots.
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Post by Richard on Dec 23, 2009 16:00:07 GMT -5
Are you using a pressed in bushing or vent liners? Are you just going to get a mess of them holders CNC'd?
Great idea!
Richard
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Post by squirrelhawker on Dec 23, 2009 17:30:13 GMT -5
Are you using a pressed in bushing or vent liners? Are you just going to get a mess of them holders CNC'd? Great idea! Richard Richard, My buddy CNC'ed these. He made me 16 I think. I told him they had to be as close as possible in OAL for consistant headspace and seal at the end of the .240"dia. tip. I checked them and they are .0003" max deviation from longest to shortest They can be reprimed with my RCBS hand primer tool. I am making a deprimer handheld tool too. (make this stuff up as I go along..  Since the re-priming isnt a big deal..I wasnt really concerned about having a lot of these on hand. (The primer carriers). That would give a guy something to do in between shots if you wanted to kill a little time. I was originally going to go with the 209's when I fell into the case of FED. GM215M's. This breech plug has a 1.100" deep cavity .380" id. with a savage style vent liner screw at the bottom. (.0312") |
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Post by rexxer on Dec 23, 2009 20:01:58 GMT -5
NIce project! Look forward to see the finished weapon!
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Post by jims on Dec 23, 2009 21:03:26 GMT -5
It looks as if you put your plan into action. Keep us posted.
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Post by tar12 on Dec 23, 2009 21:40:46 GMT -5
Hurry up and get it done! I want to see that creation!
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Post by Dave W on Dec 23, 2009 21:51:50 GMT -5
Whats the flame path diameter on your primer carrier? Look forward to seeing the final look and how it shoots more importantly.
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Post by Jon on Dec 24, 2009 6:38:59 GMT -5
Great idea and great execution. Are you going to manufacture these for sale?
Jon
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Post by squirrelhawker on Dec 30, 2009 14:25:45 GMT -5
Whats the flame path diameter on your primer carrier? Look forward to seeing the final look and how it shoots more importantly. Hi, Sorry for the slow response...been away for a few days. The diameter as seen in the pic is 3/32" (or .937") A typical flash hole on a c-fire cartridge is around .080". Actually I told my buddy to change it to a #36 (.1065") but he forgot. I will see how this does and can easily enlarge them if I want on my drill press. Not sure when I will get things together but will post info as I get it. |
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Post by squirrelhawker on Dec 30, 2009 14:37:34 GMT -5
Great idea and great execution. Are you going to manufacture these for sale? Jon Didnt plan on it for now. My buddy was good enough to turn these out for me but he isnt really wanting to do this stuff to sell. I hope to get my own lathe and milling machine in 2010..if so, I might be willing to take on a little work. |
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Post by ET on Dec 30, 2009 16:05:10 GMT -5
The diameter as seen in the pic is 3/32" (or .937") Just for clarification you mean .0937 when referring to 3/32 ? Ed |
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Post by squirrelhawker on Dec 30, 2009 17:06:07 GMT -5
The diameter as seen in the pic is 3/32" (or .937") Just for clarification you mean .0937 when referring to 3/32 ? Ed 3/32" drill bit was used. Decimal equivalent is .0937" OR... 3 divided by 32= .09375" |
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Post by rambler on Nov 17, 2018 17:07:38 GMT -5
I was just re-reading some of the older posts and marveling in the advancements that have been made in the world of smokeless muzzleloading. Rock on bros.
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Post by busta on Nov 17, 2018 17:47:12 GMT -5
Yep, and some never got the credit for their design.
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Post by dannoboone on Nov 17, 2018 18:16:58 GMT -5
So did Squirrelhawker ever get his rifle finished? Appears
that everything stopped in mid-sentence.......
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Post by edge on Nov 18, 2018 9:14:04 GMT -5
So did Squirrelhawker ever get his rifle finished? Appears that everything stopped in mid-sentence....... What do you mean by mid sent..... |
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Post by dannoboone on Nov 18, 2018 15:50:28 GMT -5
So did Squirrelhawker ever get his rifle finished? Appears that everything stopped in mid-sentence....... What do you mean by mid sent..... Correction: Appears everything stopped in the middle of the story. Does anyone know if Squirrelhawker ever got his rifle finished?? |
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Post by AJ on Nov 18, 2018 17:05:49 GMT -5
Very interesting to see where things originate and how some claim ownership.
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Post by Dave W on Nov 18, 2018 21:30:41 GMT -5
Pretty sure Vince posted results over on Modern MLs site way back when. IIRC it shot very good.
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Post by rambler on Nov 19, 2018 10:44:38 GMT -5
Here is yet another innovation from the past that everyone has picked up on and started using, the 'rear sealing' breech plug. First ones that I know of who started using this style was SMI who started converting other guns to smokeless back in the mid '80s. I believe that was long before most all of the smokeless builders had even started building smokeless rigs. I have a gun that SMI converted for me and one of the breech plugs that is still the same lo these many years. www.smokelessmuzzleloading.com/index.htmlSMI's original rear sealing breech plug:  |
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Post by GMB54-120 on Nov 19, 2018 11:07:13 GMT -5
Nothing really new about rear sealing. I think even TC had some in their smokers years ago. NULA plug from over 10 years ago.  |
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) and still dont have it together yet 
. I did get the breech plug and priming system though the other day. I was able to get my hands on a case of federal LR magnum match primers from my salesman a few weeks back. I drew up plans for the plug and primer carriers I wanted to go with & gave it to my machinist buddy. I guess some go with cut down cartridge cases or even the 45 acp (Edge, I think). I wanted to make this my own..ha ha. Here are a few pics. 
Since the re-priming isnt a big deal..I wasnt really concerned about having a lot of these on hand. (The primer carriers). That would give a guy something to do in between shots if you wanted to kill a little time. 
