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Post by scotts94z28 on Sept 4, 2023 13:29:18 GMT -5
Looking for advice on building a youth smokeless muzzleloader. Would like something with a shorter length of pull (12.5”) as well as a light recoiling load. Would love to do something like a scout conversion but not sure if anyone makes a shorter length of pull butt stock for them. Also concerned about what plug to use that won’t leave too large of an area for powder so the bullet falls in on a reduced load. Thinking something like a 200 grain sst or fury in a sabot but unsure on powder type and amount. Anyone done something similar or have any ideas?
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Post by peteo on Sept 4, 2023 19:54:56 GMT -5
You are on the right path. Perhaps cutting the syntheytic stock and keep an eye open for a spare one while the young one fills out. I believe that a blue harvestor saboted 195 or a 200 grain in 40 cal if your state would allow it would give you reduced recoil loads. N110 if your powder chamber will allow the use would be perfect.
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Post by dannoboone on Sept 5, 2023 10:49:48 GMT -5
One cannot use too much over 35gr of N110 due to the rapid
pressure it creates. Would that be enough to fill the powder
chamber?
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Post by scotts94z28 on Sept 6, 2023 16:23:25 GMT -5
I’m thinking 30gr N110 with the 200 gr SST or 225 gr Fury would be perfect. Questions is what plug to have a CVA threaded for that would allow such a low powder charge.
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Post by cuda on Sept 7, 2023 13:17:52 GMT -5
I would use a recessed Savage plug that way the powder would be closer to the primer in smaller space.
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Post by lbahunter on Sept 11, 2023 22:09:42 GMT -5
I went the opposite direction as everyone else when I had my conversion done. My black blue Scout is set up for the lighter sabot loads. It has the longer DI plug from Hankins. It takes most of the 45-70 chamber out. I have a very small powder chamber. I wanted to shoot the faster powders like N110. I shoot bullets mainly from 180gr to 225gr. I shoot 30 to 38 gr. of N110 with a 180 to 225 gr. bullets in a HLB sabot.
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Post by lbahunter on Sept 11, 2023 22:14:19 GMT -5
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Post by lbahunter on Sept 11, 2023 22:28:20 GMT -5
A super cream puff is N110 and a Barnes 10mm 155gr TAC-XP in a HLB sabot in my gun. I need to shoot a deer with that Barnes to see how it performs.
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Post by dannoboone on Sept 12, 2023 11:24:56 GMT -5
A super cream puff is N110 and a Barnes 10mm 155gr TAC-XP in a HLB sabot in my gun. I need to shoot a deer with that Barnes to see how it performs. Those should be good for closer work out to 100yds, maybe a bit further. I once got some 150gr BX's which never made it to market and harvested three deer with them. Only one made it to 50yds, the other two were DRT. When first attempting to group them, I was getting shotgun 4" groups at 100 yards, then thought to measure the diameters which were .001 shy of actual .400", some even less. After knurling them to .400, they shot MOA using HLB sabots. Over the years, I have gotten several different Barnes bullets, and and almost all are less than caliber. |
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Post by scotts94z28 on Sept 12, 2023 12:31:17 GMT -5
A super cream puff is N110 and a Barnes 10mm 155gr TAC-XP in a HLB sabot in my gun. I need to shoot a deer with that Barnes to see how it performs. I'll definitely have to try this. |
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Post by lbahunter on Sept 21, 2023 8:48:41 GMT -5
A super cream puff is N110 and a Barnes 10mm 155gr TAC-XP in a HLB sabot in my gun. I need to shoot a deer with that Barnes to see how it performs. I'll definitely have to try this. I've never used this load, I found it in the traces. Use at your own risk.... Another possibility might be 16grs of Red Dot with a 200gr SST in a HLB sabot. |
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