Who used H322?

[dannoboone]

At one time there was a member who posted quite a bit
about using H322 in his muzzle loaders as it was his
favorite. I do not recall his title....does anyone?

[dave d.]

Hi danno I used it quite a bit in the past but that was a long time ago and i don't know if I still have the data. I know there was others maybe they will chime in.

[tar12]

Rifleman (Dwight) used it a good bit.

[dannoboone]

Hey Dave, long time no see!

Guess I should have asked for a load. A guy on another
board is asking for a load with a 250gr bullet in an
Encore barrel. I've only used H322 with a duplex in a
bolt gun and those loads could be a disaster for him.

So does anyone have any light loads using H322?

[dave d.]

Danno I will see what I can dig up just super busy with family and work. 6 months till retirement 😃😃😃

[tbye3300]

Jul 11, 2021 12:56:06 GMT -5 dannoboone said:

At one time there was a member who posted quite a bit
about using H322 in his muzzle loaders as it was his
favorite. I do not recall his title....does anyone?

I think his cover title was MOTO357. He used to post a lot about shooting H322.  I used to shoot it some but it was always dirty because I didn't enough grains of it. 

[dannoboone]

Should add/should have said this is for a .45 Encore.

[44evans45]

In an encore: with a brake, a 275 grain bullet, and 72 grains of H322; you can achieve between 2650-2700 FPS (depending on barrel length) with very little felt recoil and great groups.

[tn10ml2]

I have shot a couple pounds of H322 in my .50 Savage 10ML2, mostly back in 2006-2010.

**Incidentally**, though, I recently saw someone in a reloading forum discuss that their data showed faster burn/higher pressures from a batch of H322 they picked up here during the pandemic/ammo shortage. I AM *NOT* advising anyone to use the loads I successfully shot in my 10ML more than a decade ago.

I used to post here a lot in the 2005-2010/2011 era when RBinAR went full time into SML work and was running his pressure traces, Toby was on his anti-Savage campaign, SW was experimenting with knurled Barnes and .40 SMLs, and Rifleman was shooting ungodly amounts of 777 in a non-smokeless rig ("Ultimate ML," maybe) and trying to adapt his M16 shooting prowess to the 10ML2 with Barnes Originals. It seems like I remember edge experimenting with donut-shaped all-copper bullets, too.

But kids, work, and life cut my range time and even hunting almost to nil for a while. Today was the first time I have been back here in a decade or so, and since I no longer have the email I used I cannot even remember what my user name was.

Anyway, when I got my 10ML2 in 2005, I had poor success with VVN110 until I JB'd and glass-bedded my barrel. The barrel is still tight enough that HPH12 sabots can get jammed while loading if the temps are below freezing, so I swab after ever shot and generally use HPH24 sabots.

That first year (2005), took 3 deer with 245gr Barnes Spitfires in the yellow Barnes sabots over 67gr of IMR4198. No chrono; consistently cloverleaf to barely sub-MOA 3 and 5 shot groups.

But I wanted more speed and better SD/BC, so in 2006 I switched to 300gr T/C Shockwaves in HPH24 sabots over 83.1gr of H322. From 2006 through 2013, I used that load to kill approximately a half-dozen deer I can think of, plus a few coyotes. It was pretty consistently a 1-MOA load even though it kicks like an angry mule. However, it never consistently burned all the powder, so I always wondered if it was under-pressured and/or prone to temp sensitivity.

In 2016 I had a misfire while hunting, though that may have been moisture-related. I also wanted to sight in with a load my kids could use without losing teeth. So I have switched back to 250XTPs in HPH24 over VVN110 in a weight equivalent to the smallest of the Savage-supplied Lee dippers.

Again, I am just relating my experiences, not advising that any of those loads are good or safe in anyone else's rifle. Hope that helps!

[Dave W]

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