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Post by schunter on Mar 13, 2018 13:53:17 GMT -5
You guys use either of these two products for carbon and copper removal in your center fire rifles?
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Post by AJ on Mar 14, 2018 5:39:55 GMT -5
Yep, I have been using Wipe Out for years. It works great. I run a patch to get the big stuff out and squirt the barrel full of WO and leave it sit. Typically about 30 min later I patch out the WO and the barrel is clean. If it has not been cleaned in a long while (lots of rounds) I will do multiple iterations and leave it sit overnight before patching. It is quick easy and does the job.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Mar 14, 2018 18:04:46 GMT -5
It works well, as AJ said, but I prefer Bore Tech. For heavy fouling BT has produced better and faster results. If I'm shooting a multi day, high round count match I take WipeOut because it's convenient.
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Post by Dave W on Mar 14, 2018 20:07:25 GMT -5
The only two products I use are Patch Out and Boretech Eliminator. I like to use PO if I am not in a hurry, since I don't use the accelerator, wet the bore and let it sit overnight, repeat. If I am in a hurry, like before a range trip, I use BT. Both good products. IMO
The aerosol version of Wipeout is too messy for me.
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Post by schunter on Mar 15, 2018 6:37:27 GMT -5
Thanks for the feedback guys. I will look at Boretech as well. About to break in a new 6.5 Creedmoor barrel. Have used Sweets 7.62 and Shooters Choice extra strength copper remover for years but both are about empty. The Shooters Choice doesn't cut carbon very well so I usually use Kroil oil for that. Would like to get away from the ammonia based cleaners if possible.
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Post by Dave W on Mar 15, 2018 8:40:18 GMT -5
I used Shooters Choice for years, not the extra strength version, Patch Out pulled more copper out of a bore that had been cleaned with Shooters Choice initially.
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Post by schunter on Mar 15, 2018 10:59:10 GMT -5
Yea the Shooters Choice is not very good at removing copper not even the extra strength version. Usually had to use the Sweets to do that.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Mar 15, 2018 13:48:33 GMT -5
I love Bore Tech because it cleans well and quickly plus it's water soluble. Instead of water I use isopropyl alcohol because it dries faster and seems to work better. Clean with about 10 patches or less depending on frequency (every 500 in .223/.308 and every 250 6.5) using their carbon and copper solvents, patch with alcohol, 1-2 dry patches, done.
I'm about to break in a 6.5 upper myself. I won a CRA/BHW barrel at a match and it showed up so Barnes Precision assembled the upper, I'm just waiting on a BCG.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Mar 15, 2018 13:49:40 GMT -5
I use coated bullets but uncoated will go the same rounds counts, you'll just clean more copper.
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Post by AJ on Mar 15, 2018 22:07:28 GMT -5
Not sure of it is still king of copper removers, but KG-12 was the best copper remover on the market last time I checked. Granted it has been a few years but it does indeed work well. I use it when the bore has been neglected for a long time. For normal cleaning I still use Wipe Out.
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Post by schunter on Mar 16, 2018 6:32:42 GMT -5
I saw KG-12 on Gunwerks show the other night. Had never heard of it until then. They sale Wipe Out and the KG products on their website. Interesting test, thanks for sharing AJ.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Mar 16, 2018 7:45:44 GMT -5
I have a metric ton of KG products that the American Sniper Association sent me while I was in Afghanistan in '12 and I will never use it all if anyone wants to try it. More than anything I avoid handling petroleum products and tests have proven petroleum products don't clean as well as conventional wisdom holds they do.
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