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Post by rustypipes on Nov 6, 2016 15:22:19 GMT -5
Has anyone tried These? I've been using pretty much the same bullets for the last 10 years but every now and then I like to try something different. I bought a pack of these on sale and after reading the literature that came with them it says NOT to use with smokeless powder. I wonder if its just they were never really tested or a pressure spike (or some other reason). I haven't blown myself up yet and don't plan to start but thought about giving them a try with a light (35gr.) load of 5744. Federal Just says they don't recommend it. I just noticed a post from 2 years ago on these (didn't realize they've been out that long). I don't see any recent updates or comments so I guess I'm going to the range.
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Post by hunter on Nov 6, 2016 21:33:47 GMT -5
It seems to me there might have been ignition issues with these bullets and smokeless because of the light loading pressure, but I can't remember who tried them
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Post by rustypipes on Nov 7, 2016 11:28:08 GMT -5
Okay, Well I'm going to the range today to try out the pistol I just bought so I'll bring the ML10 along , give it a try and report back.
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Post by rangeball on Nov 7, 2016 11:40:18 GMT -5
I think carlos shot them with smokeless and got good results. Will be interesting to see how they work for you.
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Post by rustypipes on Nov 7, 2016 21:50:50 GMT -5
Okay, back from the range and I have to say that I'm impressed! For some reason I'm having a problem attaching the files but the short version is: running with a load of Accurate #5744 of approx. 47gr. in my 50. cal., I was able to put together two 3 shot 100 yd. strings that were touching , I can see where this load might be a problem if you have have a loose fitting bore. My first string hit 7"high on the bulls eye with my gun being zeroed at 2" high with 300gr. Lightfields.I know Wakeman doesn't like them but I've got about 100 clean kills with them. I always look for something a little flatter shooting since they tend to drop like a rock after 200 yd.s and these are promising! I did'nt have time to back up and try at 200yd.s but by the end of the week I will!
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Post by rangeball on Nov 8, 2016 9:29:44 GMT -5
Nice!
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Post by mike243 on Dec 16, 2017 4:33:15 GMT -5
I shot a couple with 40g of N110 and they were 7-8" high,didn't have time to ck groups but interested in them at some point maybe.was zeroed with 250g SST so I thought some thing was off and stopped with 2 shots
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Post by GMB54-120 on Dec 18, 2017 11:01:02 GMT -5
Considering the Fed 270gr (actually about 250gr of copper) only has a BC close to .170 and expands poorly at slow impact speeds....I would not get my hopes up for it being a better or flatter shooting bullet. A 300gr Thor is probably close to the same price but pretty much no full bore 50cal ML bullet is gunna have anything close to good BC.
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Post by cvadave on Dec 18, 2017 16:11:06 GMT -5
If you get them up around 2200 plus fps, they will open up fine out to 200 yards, maybe 225 yards, after that good question what they woyld do.
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Post by ourway77 on Dec 18, 2017 16:51:20 GMT -5
Shot them in my Remington Ultimate didn't do very well with both BH-209 and 777 powder
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Post by cvadave on Dec 18, 2017 17:00:09 GMT -5
Best accuracy with this bullet you needed to have a tight barrel, out of some CVA's and TC they shot great, with 110 gr by volume of BH 209 the bullet would open up nice with 1950 fps, they were good to 125 yards, after that you needed to jump the powder up to 130 gr by volume to get the speed up enough to open them up at 200 yards.
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Post by GMB54-120 on Dec 19, 2017 11:26:21 GMT -5
The 350gr lead alloy version is more appealing to me but i doubt it would play well with smokeless. You would likely need to use 4198 or Reloder7 to keep the pressure down enough and a wad to help seal it. Even then its pretty "iffy" it would work well.
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Post by muznut on Jan 10, 2018 15:32:18 GMT -5
I shot a good sized crotch horn with the federal borlock copper this past December at about 100yd broadside and the bullet passed through and performed well. My load was 42gr of imr 4759 powder under a dry wool wad and bullet. Fed. 209a was used
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