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Post by bryguy on May 11, 2016 10:48:32 GMT -5
SO My restocked 220 loves the 3 inch Remington accutips. so when I found them on the shelf at a GS I hit while on the road for work I bought 10 boxes of them. They are accurate as crap, but I am getting a 10% Fail to fire rate. primer strikes are good, and like I said, the other shells will fire. so now although they are accurate as crap, I am worried about this for next season. I am saving the ones that don't fire and I will be contacting Remington about the issue....not expecting much from them support wise but I will try. Have any of you seen this? the lots are of new manufacture so age is not an issue.
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Post by jims on May 11, 2016 21:54:58 GMT -5
You could see if they fire in another slug gun. That might help determine if it is the firearm itself or the ammo. I understand your concern, the buck of a lifetime would appear when it would go click.
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Post by lwh723 on May 12, 2016 11:05:54 GMT -5
Ask rangeball about accutip misfires. I think that's what he was using.
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Post by bryguy on May 12, 2016 14:02:08 GMT -5
Ask rangeball about accutip misfires. I think that's what he was using. Oh boy that sounds like a good piece of info to have.....looks like Ill try the Hornady SSTs again.......gun didn't like em much before, maybe now that its bedded and stuff it will do better with them. |
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Post by mrbuck on May 12, 2016 16:28:10 GMT -5
Several years ago I saw on a shotgun website that the Savage 220 had an issue with " light hits " on shells and misfires . Can't recall what site or if it was only Rem. Accutips . My 220 has never failed to fire , and for the range that it is effective , it is accurate enough to get the job done . I would always rather have a 12 than a 20 !
Looking forward to seeing some groups from your 220 .
Chris
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Post by bryguy on May 16, 2016 10:26:53 GMT -5
so I fired the rest of the lot I had.......15 rounds and no misfires this time......all went bang and grouped pretty d**n good...will call Remington today and see what they say about the duds I have.
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Post by rangeball on May 18, 2016 15:31:25 GMT -5
I have to thank Luke for notifying me of this thread and dredging up painful memories. The year before I went SML, I put about everything through my H&R 12g USH. Previously I had used the original Federal Barnes gold box, my gun loved them, but Federal changed them somehow and I was routinely blowing sabots and accuracy vanished. I took the Hornady SSTs, Remington Accutips and core bonds and winchesters to the range. I already new my gun would shoot the Hastings full bores great, but the BC on those was so low, and the recoil brutal. They knock the snot out of deer though. Anyway, I found the 2 3/4 accutips shot best, under 2 moa at 100yds. I was happy, and when the opener rolled around I was sitting on the edge of a CRP field full of hope. Long story short, I had a B&C buck at 25 yds, pulled up, fired, click. Re-cocked the hammer, click. I probably tried to shoot it 5 times before it slowly wandered off to about 50 yds in the thick stuff. I pulled the accutip and slipped in a hastings, and when I thought I had an opening, took the shot, but no dice, it was too thick. He trotted off out of my life. Back at the cabin I tried to fire that shell several more times, no go. Primer was dented as much as any other primer that fired. Next day I shot a doe with an accutip, it fired, but at 40 yds the slug just penciled through. She laid there forever and wouldn't die, so I finished her off with a hastings. At that time I was communicating with a guy at Marlin who had taken over H&R and was trying to get them to come out with a faster twist rate in their 12g, told him the story, he told a Remington buddy of his who contacted me and sent me 4 boxes of accutips for my trouble. Nice gesture, but they're still sitting in storage. Went SML because of this nonsense and have never looked back. Now I can't get the image of that buck walking away out of my mind. Thanks Luke  I did help a buddy set up his Savage 220 and the accutips were the most accurate and he has taken several deer with no problems, and another uses a 20g USH with them, but I'll never trust them again. |
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Post by rangeball on May 18, 2016 15:34:48 GMT -5
I don't know if they are still available, I know he had a stroke several years back, but Chris Youngs Collet Cup sabots are a good option to consider. I think the quality control was much better than the big guys which is half the battle in my opinion. Every SST I tried the bullet would rattle in the sabot. That can't be good for consistency and in my case the poor accuracy proved it.
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Post by lwh723 on May 18, 2016 16:56:48 GMT -5
Haha.... you're welcome Great story though... |
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Post by mrbuck on May 22, 2016 15:39:10 GMT -5
Very experienced slug shooters have told me of Accutips not expanding on deer ... both 20ga. and 12ga. I think that Chris Young's wife , Emma , may still load the Collet Cup Slugs .They maybe available from Cheyenne Outfitters or Harry's Army and Navy in Central 'Jersey . daved I'm sure knows more .
Chris
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Post by hatchetjack1 on May 22, 2016 17:21:40 GMT -5
Had a problem with mis-fires from my 20ga H&R ultra slug gun using SST's. (I thought)Changed to Rem 2 3/4 accutips to solve the problem.Ended up eventually getting mis-fires with them also.Sent the gun back to H&R to have new firing pin installed and solved the problem.
Bad part is I let the landowners grandson use that gun one year on opening day.You guessed it.Biggest buck on the property stopped broadside for him at 30 yds and "click".
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Post by bryguy on May 30, 2016 12:18:58 GMT -5
Well I went back and tried the ones I had a FTF with In another gun and still no bang with them.
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Post by mrbuck on Jun 1, 2016 5:01:52 GMT -5
Get in touch with Remington . Maybe you can get a free case of Accutips that will fire for your loss of confidence , pain, and suffering !
Chris
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Post by jims on Jun 1, 2016 12:26:56 GMT -5
bryguy: I think you can say with much more confidence that there is a cartridge/primer problem. I have never had that happen in over 60 years of shooting except with some .22s years ago. Glad it did not happen on the buck of your dreams.
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Post by bryguy on Jun 2, 2016 8:42:56 GMT -5
Well I also experimented with the Hornady SST slugs and they sucked accuracy wise. I also have one of those FTF. I tried it in another gun and it didn't fire either. Wonder if there is a bad batch of primers out there in shotgun land.
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Post by eml9 on Jun 8, 2016 8:20:14 GMT -5
Accutips are junk in my opinion. A friend of mine has had a few issues with accutips firing from his hnr. I have shot 10-12 deer with the accutips and havent had a decent blood trail yet nor a pass thru. All double lung shots . I will not be shooting them next year . I have never had luck with the the sst being accurate in either of my slug guns.
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Post by Deerhunter76 on Jun 9, 2016 8:38:19 GMT -5
I have had excellent results with the Accutips. I have used both the 12 and 20ga in multiple guns. Only issues with failures was in an H&R 12ga which there have been several reports of. I have had pass thru shots at distances ranging from 20-208yds. They have been by far the most accurate slugs at distance I've shot.
Not every gun may like them but mine sure have.
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Post by jims on Jun 9, 2016 13:32:55 GMT -5
bryguy: What company did you restock your shotgun?
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Post by bryguy on Jun 10, 2016 9:07:00 GMT -5
bryguy: What company did you restock your shotgun? I used a boyds lightweight thumdhole. I pillar and glass bedded the gun myself. I love the current configuration and how the gun feels. I hunt several areas that require you to be 8 feet off the ground with a rifle( even a ml) so these areas I use the slug gun in. Some of the best spots I have need to be hunted off the ground, so that only leaves bow or shotgun. |
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Post by gchuckie on Aug 19, 2016 7:18:48 GMT -5
I have one of the older 220s I believe the first generation series, I never had problems with it till last year of course when I had the biggest 8 pointer within 40 yards I filmed the deer then waited for the right shot and squeezed the trigger and it went click, It was the first time I had a misfire, I thought maybe the bolt was not closed but that was not the case, then i had shot around 5 more shots out of the same box of Bullets I had and had one more misfire, so I did some research and found that they had some issues with the firing pins. Almost forgot I was shooting the federal Barnes 3 inch my gun liked those the best!
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Post by alexcray on Mar 5, 2024 21:28:03 GMT -5
SO My restocked 220 loves the 3 inch Remington accutips. so when I found them on the shelf at a GS I hit while on the road for work I bought 10 boxes of them. They are accurate as crap, but I am getting a 10% Fail to fire rate. primer strikes are good, and like I said, the other shells will fire. so now although they are accurate as crap, I am worried about this for next season. I am saving the ones that don't fire and I will be contacting Remington about the issue....not expecting much from them support wise but I will try. Have any of you seen this? the lots are of new manufacture so age is not an issue. Try firing the misfired rounds in a different shotgun chambered for the same caliber (3-inch 20 gauge). This will help isolate if the issue lies with the ammunition or your specific firearm. |
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