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Post by eml9 on Oct 8, 2015 18:32:14 GMT -5
So , muzzleloader season starts tom. Went out tonight to shoot a few shot to foul my barrel .. shot #1 dead on .. shot 2.3.4.5.6 dropped 1/2 in. To 1 in. Each shot.. by shot 6 I was roughly 5 in. Low . I did not wait in between these shots other than walk to the target .I had time for one more shot so I waited 15 minutes to let barrel cool. Shot 7 was in the bull with shot 1. I would blame this on the barrel being too hot but why we're shot 2 and 3 dropping as well .. I never give cooling time when shooting a 3 shot group and have no issues.. load was 10/ 58 red dot / have 4198 250 Barnes tez . They were shot from a lead sled that has not been modified .All shot 100 yards . Is this a problem lead sleds cause?
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Post by rangeball on Oct 8, 2015 19:30:10 GMT -5
Saboted or sabotless?
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Post by eml9 on Oct 8, 2015 20:01:41 GMT -5
Sabotless ..last time I shot this load it was 80 degrees ...today it was 60. Could it be the flame channel in breech possibly need cleaning ? Kinda scratching my head, I'm going to shoot it again tomarrow Instead of hunting .. last time I shot was about two months ago and I was punching through the same hole ...
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Post by rangeball on Oct 8, 2015 20:37:32 GMT -5
Bushing or vent liner?
I doubt the sled is the cause. #7 after the wait back where you expected it is confusing.
Have you fired that many in a row before?
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Post by edge on Oct 8, 2015 20:46:29 GMT -5
Bushing or vent liner? I doubt the sled is the cause. #7 after the wait back where you expected it is confusing. Have you fired that many in a row before? Clean the vent, and take a few shots. edge.
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Post by eml9 on Oct 8, 2015 20:50:41 GMT -5
.30 bushing . No I have not .. only reason I did today was because I couldn't figure out what was going on . Hopefully I just had really bad range trip that happened to be coincidental ..?
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a1smokepole
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Post by a1smokepole on Oct 8, 2015 20:58:18 GMT -5
Or you using a wad under the bullet
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Post by eml9 on Oct 8, 2015 21:01:02 GMT -5
Yes I do use .60 veggie wads
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a1smokepole
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Post by a1smokepole on Oct 8, 2015 21:09:40 GMT -5
so what gun or you shooting.
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Post by rangeball on Oct 8, 2015 21:22:05 GMT -5
WAG here. Rd is pretty hot, barrel expanding a bit more with each shot so bullet fit is a bit looser as well, losing psi and fps each time. Cool down put it back where it should be. I assume no chrony data?
I'd go hunting.
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Post by lakeplainshunter on Oct 9, 2015 4:00:39 GMT -5
Wait 10 to 15 minutes between each shot.
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Post by eml9 on Oct 9, 2015 6:49:16 GMT -5
Al,I'm shooting a mcrem .45... it very well could have been the barrel expanding since there was limited cool down time ... I will drill the breech out and shoot again ..I will have more time to let the barrel cool today since I'm gething off early .. shots 2 and 3 still doesn't add up to me since I have shot in much hotter temp's with no problem firing 3 consecutive shots .. maybe just a weird coincidental trip.. I have had those before ..lol
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Post by Savage Shooter on Oct 9, 2015 7:31:09 GMT -5
WAG here. Rd is pretty hot, barrel expanding a bit more with each shot so bullet fit is a bit looser as well, losing psi and fps each time. Cool down put it back where it should be. I assume no chrony data? I'd go hunting. Spot on! Don't worry about it at all. Go by first shot poi, load it and go hunting it will go where ever first shot did every time.
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Post by epanzella on Oct 9, 2015 8:42:14 GMT -5
Shots 2 thru 6 were dropping. Shot 7 was with shot 1. I'm more inclined to think shot 7 was the coincidence than shot 2 thru 6. Check your rings, bases and stock to make sure all is tight. Clean your flash hole and channel. Rinse, repeat.
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Post by rangeball on Oct 9, 2015 10:21:49 GMT -5
Al,I'm shooting a mcrem .45... it very well could have been the barrel expanding since there was limited cool down time ... I will drill the breech out and shoot again ..I will have more time to let the barrel cool today since I'm gething off early .. shots 2 and 3 still doesn't add up to me since I have shot in much hotter temp's with no problem firing 3 consecutive shots .. maybe just a weird coincidental trip.. I have had those before ..lol There's been reports of fast booster duplexes actually increasing fps and pressure in cool temps. Go kill something
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