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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2015 22:54:01 GMT -5
salt-n-pepper hair here @ 42...but I used to have hair like Fabio...ahh... those were the days. Uhh...weenie wolves?.. Are they like saber tooth crotch crickets?
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Post by mtj555 on Apr 25, 2015 6:16:41 GMT -5
May have to change the other name for the jacket from smoking jacket to smokeless jacket
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Post by 7mmfreak on Apr 25, 2015 6:31:37 GMT -5
salt-n-pepper hair here @ 42...but I used to have hair like Fabio...ahh... those were the days. Uhh...weenie wolves?.. Are they like saber tooth crotch crickets? They are vicious beasties that guard the entrance to the underworld. If they don't lick you to death, and the siren in the kitchen doesn't lure you with biscuits, sausage, and (especially Mike's case) jelly, you might escape down the tunnel (or stairs) that descend into the depths of the earth where Mike's magic happens.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 8:01:42 GMT -5
Mikes wife says that he is a basement rat, only comes up to feed himself and the Weenie Wolves. OR maybe she just keeps him locked down there?
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Post by 7mmfreak on Apr 25, 2015 8:12:37 GMT -5
If you had that basement you wouldn't leave either except to eat or go shoot.
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Post by jims on Apr 25, 2015 8:21:40 GMT -5
Is that anything like a dungeon except they let you leave?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 8:35:06 GMT -5
Yes If I had Mikes tools I would be a basement rat as well
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Post by cowhunter on Apr 25, 2015 11:48:58 GMT -5
7mm. I really like the green colors. For those of us who are not completely familiar with center fire builds, could you explain the difference and/or advantage to making the bolt like you did versus buying a Hunter bolt nose-type kit for the bolt (I'm not sure if any proven kit even exists). Also, what type of work goes into creating one like yours.
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Post by airborneike on Apr 25, 2015 14:05:37 GMT -5
Funny how when you are in your twenties or early thirties you don't give "time" a second thought and then you wake up one day and look in the mirror and.....ARGH!...where did the years go?
The best gift us older guys could give to younger guys and gals would be to make them actually UNDERSTAND how short their time is on this great earth and to spend their time wisely.
Keith visited when he had just finished Ranger school and was still half starved to death...anything tastes good in that situation.
Bill, I really do have a life outside the basement, just seems that's always where I am when we talk.
Josh, the weenie wolves are a pack of dorkie dachshunds (yes that is a recognized breed) that the kids left behind when they left home. The old "can I have him Dad" "I'll feed him and take care of him" pleeeeese. Bet many of you can identify :-)
Hunters bolt nose kit is only used on ML bolts and won't work on regular Rem bolts. Far as I know, there is no kit to convert Remington center fire bolts to use 209 primers. The Rem bolts are not too hard to make and involve boring to three diameters and an EXACT depth for the firing pin stop shoulder. The bolt is threaded inside 1/2 x 13 tpi and the bolt shroud must be fit first because it determines where the bolt lugs will be cut. The lugs are mill cut. The cuts that intimidate are the nose cuts but with care, they are easily done. There is a little room for error but the dimensions have to be close.
If you ever take the time to look close at a center fire bolt you will be amazed at the engineering that went into it.
Advantages? If you are poor, curious and have the tools then it is a good project until Meyers and Kash bring their bolt to market. For me it is just a matter of trying to make a different, sometimes better, "mousetrap". I firmly believe there are processes and equipment that is yet to be discovered that will make our niche sport better and more efficient.
Phew!,I'll have a headache for a week after getting this deep :-)
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Post by 7mmfreak on Apr 25, 2015 16:32:55 GMT -5
7mm. I really like the green colors. Me too. I probably need to own some other colors other than green, brown, grey, and black. One of my guys walked up to me a couple weeks back, tugged at my jacket pocket, and asked, "Got any granola in there?" He's from SE Alaska so I know I'm doing it right when he's worried I'm to earth tone.
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Post by airborneike on Apr 25, 2015 18:42:39 GMT -5
Ok now it gets interesting. Was too big a chicken to fire 2 more shots but when the next 2 were overlayed would have gone into the group. These were the first 3 shots out of a fouled barrel and the group is as good as I have ever got out of this Douglas barrel. 100 yard target. Can't really say why, 209 bolt?,Houge stock? 36 power leupold target scope?...but I will gladly take it. If this rifle repeats this accuracy enough then no reason to "tinker" more. I like the different earththy colors too...the flat dark earth and OD colors just disappears in the woods. An edit: The .040 bushing allowed 2 powder grains to fall onto the bolt face and right into the primer lip...may have to try the .030 bushing. Mike
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Post by jims on Apr 25, 2015 18:48:22 GMT -5
I would not "tinker" it away, just leave it where it is. Bestill has been pretty happy with those Douglas barrels also. I have had one on a Mauser 98 25-06 for over 50 years that still shoots well.
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Post by 7mmfreak on Apr 25, 2015 19:35:00 GMT -5
I call that winning.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2015 21:27:35 GMT -5
looks really good to me! hard to beat a bughole like that...
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Post by rambler on Apr 25, 2015 21:43:49 GMT -5
Ok now it gets interesting. Was too big a chicken to fire 2 more shots but when the next 2 were overlayed would have gone into the group. These were the first 3 shots out of a fouled barrel and the group is as good as I have ever got out of this Douglas barrel. 100 yard target. Can't really say why, 209 bolt?,Houge stock? 36 power leupold target scope?...but I will gladly take it. If this rifle repeats this accuracy enough then no reason to "tinker" more. I like the different earththy colors too...the flat dark earth and OD colors just disappears in the woods. An edit: The .040 bushing allowed 2 powder grains to fall onto the bolt face and right into the primer lip...may have to try the .030 bushing. Mike Two questions:
#1. How did you get the Parkers to full form for that barrel?
#2. Does IMR4198 have larger granules than H4198? I have a .040 bushing and have never had IMR4198 fall thru the orifice?? I have a chance to pick up some H4198 and now I don't know if I want to or not.
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Post by hankinsrfls on Apr 25, 2015 23:29:11 GMT -5
Yes. IMR4198 is bigger than H4198. Not a lot but it is bigger.. In this picture the H4198 is on top and the IMR4198 is on the bottom, you can see the granules are longer and just a little fatter than the H4198. Jeff Hankins
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Post by rambler on Apr 26, 2015 6:51:18 GMT -5
Nice depiction Jeff!! Thanks
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Post by jims on Apr 26, 2015 7:09:26 GMT -5
:)Jeff: It looks like "duplexing" powders might have caught your fancy.
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Post by hawghunter on Apr 26, 2015 9:29:28 GMT -5
Funny how when you are in your twenties or early thirties you don't give "time" a second thought and then you wake up one day and look in the mirror and.....ARGH!...where did the years go? The best gift us older guys could give to younger guys and gals would be to make them actually UNDERSTAND how short their time is on this great earth and to spend their time wisely. Keith visited when he had just finished Ranger school and was still half starved to death...anything tastes good in that situation. Bill, I really do have a life outside the basement, just seems that's always where I am when we talk. Josh, the weenie wolves are a pack of dorkie dachshunds (yes that is a recognized breed) that the kids left behind when they left home. The old "can I have him Dad" "I'll feed him and take care of him" pleeeeese. Bet many of you can identify :-) Hunters bolt nose kit is only used on ML bolts and won't work on regular Rem bolts. Far as I know, there is no kit to convert Remington center fire bolts to use 209 primers. The Rem bolts are not too hard to make and involve boring to three diameters and an EXACT depth for the firing pin stop shoulder. The bolt is threaded inside 1/2 x 12 tpi and the bolt shroud must be fit first because it determines where the bolt lugs will be cut. The lugs are mill cut. The cuts that intimidate are the nose cuts but with care, they are easily done. There is a little room for error but the dimensions have to be close. If you ever take the time to look close at a center fire bolt you will be amazed at the engineering that went into it. Advantages? If you are poor, curious and have the tools then it is a good project until Meyers and Kash bring their bolt to market. For me it is just a matter of trying to make a different, sometimes better, "mousetrap". I firmly believe there are processes and equipment that is yet to be discovered that will make our niche sport better and more efficient. Phew!,I'll have a headache for a week after getting this deep :-) You know you are getting older when you realize that none of us are going to get out of this alive.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 9:35:59 GMT -5
Rambler, He listed his Douglas as a .452 (pistol bore) Nice bughole any chance you could post a picture of some fired primers? Is the bolthead staying clean?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 10:52:45 GMT -5
Ok now it gets interesting. Was too big a chicken to fire 2 more shots but when the next 2 were overlayed would have gone into the group. These were the first 3 shots out of a fouled barrel and the group is as good as I have ever got out of this Douglas barrel. 100 yard target. Can't really say why, 209 bolt?,Houge stock? 36 power leupold target scope?...but I will gladly take it. If this rifle repeats this accuracy enough then no reason to "tinker" more. I like the different earththy colors too...the flat dark earth and OD colors just disappears in the woods. An edit: The .040 bushing allowed 2 powder grains to fall onto the bolt face and right into the primer lip...may have to try the .030 bushing. Mike Great shooting Mike! WOWSER!! As for the bushing...the only powder I've ever had fall through my .040" bushing is H4198. IMR4198 is just as accurate and the ES's are great, but it's a little dirtier powder. I wouldn't change to a .030" bushing because you've seen 2 granules of powder fall through. If it bothers you change to a .035" bushing or change to IMR4198. The .035" bushings work great in my .416. The fact that the .040" bushing allows 2 times the flame through than the .030" bushing does, is a huge benefit vs cost, in my opinion.
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Post by hankinsrfls on Apr 26, 2015 12:51:08 GMT -5
:)Jeff: It looks like "duplexing" powders might have caught your fancy.
Jim.
I do not use duplex loads in any way.. I have both powders, but I don't mix them or any others... So far I have never had a need to use a duplex load.
Jeff Hankins.
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Post by edge on Apr 26, 2015 15:51:28 GMT -5
Nice solid bolt nose, eliminate the Savage angle that did nothing for support. Nice bench but shooting at that angle has got to result in a change in POI just kidding, pictures on a phone are always wanting! edge.
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Post by edge on Apr 26, 2015 16:00:48 GMT -5
SNIP. An edit: The .040 bushing allowed 2 powder grains to fall onto the bolt face and right into the primer lip...may have to try the .030 bushing. Mike Losing two granules is not a huge deal, BUT if they become trapped between the primer and the busing you might blow out a primer. With my original Savage ML in 2001 I wanted to use the 235 grain PR Bullet QT bullet with 2400 powder and it would not go bang for anything. I opted to add a few grains to the primer module and it worked great except if you added a couple too many granules the primer blew and the extractor claw and ball went bye bye! One or two I doubt will be missed edge.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 17:23:43 GMT -5
Losing powder in a hunting scenario could be a bad deal with the 209 boltnoses, I have trapped a granule of powder in the back edge of the cutout before and the primer wouldn't seat deep enough to properly align with the plug, result? cant close the bolt..
Its rare but it does happen..
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Post by hunter on Apr 26, 2015 18:55:44 GMT -5
Yes I usually open bolt, leave the spent primer in the bolt until I have reloaded, then remove the old primer and install new one to keep this from happening.
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Post by airborneike on Apr 26, 2015 20:03:09 GMT -5
Not worried about the loss of a few grains of powder but those two little grains did exactly what Bill said, fell right into the primer lip and messed with primer alignment. Will probably follow Earnhardt's advice and not change the bushing because the .040 works so well Hunter has the right idea about leaving the spent primer in the nose when loading. There isn't any leakage on the primers that I can see and the bolt nose is clean too. The residue on the bolt in the picture is oil. The primers look clean...maybe just a bit of carbon but these pictured were the last ones fired on a 12 shot 2 day string with no cleaning. So far this set-up works pretty good but it still needs more testing to make sure there are no hidden bugs. Edge, seems like I'm always at least a couple of degrees off square most of the time :-)
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2015 20:11:07 GMT -5
Thanks. They look great!
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Post by 7mmfreak on Apr 26, 2015 20:36:49 GMT -5
Thanks for the great write up. You are a talented guy. This is the type of thing that costs me sleep and money. I need another SML like I need another hole in my head.
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Post by Dave W on Apr 27, 2015 11:43:26 GMT -5
Very nice looking, quality work. No slouch on the trigger pulling either!!!
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