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Post by davewolf on May 23, 2009 17:39:47 GMT -5
My Omega scope has Leopold rings and a mount. I have problems with the screws on the rings working loose about every 9 or 10 shots. I've been told to take out the screws one at a time, put blue loc-tite on them and put them back in. If I take them out one at a time, is that any big fear of the scope moving?
I don't have a shooting bench to put the Triumph in; any suggestions, comments or concerns?
Thanks, as always,
Dave
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Post by 12ptdroptine on May 23, 2009 17:51:41 GMT -5
I think taking one out at a time would still cause you some poi change . Plus it would be hard to get back to an even straight pull on the ring's I would try to find out what is moving so as to cause those ring's to loosen up. I would recommend thinking real hard about pulling the scope, ring's and bases off . Then cleaning everything well with alcohol . I recommend a drop of blue thread locker and 25inch pounds on the bases and 30 inch pounds on the ring's. I know its a pain in the cheek's, But could save you alot of grief in the long run. Good Luck Drop
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Post by semisane on May 23, 2009 19:42:16 GMT -5
I agree with DROPTINE. Pull it all off and start over. There's probably oil in the threads. Actually, I've never put loc-tite on scope base or ring screws - either muzzle loader or cartridge rifle - and have never had one come loose. I suggest you get a can of carburetor spray cleaner (O'Riley's Auto Parts). After you take everything off, use the plastic tube on the spray nozzle to blast out the screw holes. Then put the screws on a paper towel and give them a good blast also. Make sure you don't touch the screw threads with your fingers when handling them to avoid transferring any oil to them.
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Post by 12ptdroptine on May 23, 2009 20:11:34 GMT -5
Be careful with carb cleaner.. It will melt plastic...I use alcohol a couple time's and let the screw's set in(a small container) of it for a few minute's also the ring's and base's since they are off anyway. then a Qtip for the threads in the reciever. a couple time's . Then dry it out with a can of "air" from the computer dept of your fav store.And when you get it back together make sure you put a light coat of oil back on the rustable surface's. Pm me if you wish and I would be very glad to give you my # and talk with you. Drop
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Post by yankee on May 23, 2009 21:16:29 GMT -5
personally there is a better product out there called vibe-tite, it's a product you put on the screw threads, let it set up and dry, then assemble, works like a ny-loc nut, i use it on all my scope furniture
and once applied, teardown is easy enough and most times no need to re-apply product
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Post by raf on May 23, 2009 22:39:09 GMT -5
I use lock tite on the bases and the rings. Nothing moves until I want it to.
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Post by davewolf on May 24, 2009 11:17:01 GMT -5
Whew:
Thanks for all the responses, I appreciate each and every one. The rings don't get very loose and require a small portion of a turn--very small. But it does bother me, since I never had to redo the scope, mounts or rings on any of my rifles.
But the gunsmith that put the mounts and rings on my Triumph is the same gunsmith that put the scope on my Traditions--and if you recall they worked loose too. He's no longer there, but I do have a friend that works on such stuff and shoots competitively with Traditional Muzzleloaders and Black Powder Pistols. He said he would fix it free of charge--so rather than mess things up, I might take him up on the offer.
But I will listen to you folks, because you haven't lead me wrong to this point. Since the base is one piece, do you really think the base could be part of the problem?
Thanks, I'll PM Droptine as he suggested and make some sort of decision from there.
I know the store will guarantee their work and that adds some confidence--for what seemed to me to be an easy fix, sounds like it is more complicated than I first thought.
Any other thoughts are still appreciated.
Thanks,
Have a great day!
Dave
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Post by minst7877 on May 24, 2009 23:03:07 GMT -5
With the problems you have been having with the rings loosening up I would make sure they did a lap job on the rings when they reinstall them.
DC
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Post by davewolf on May 25, 2009 11:51:25 GMT -5
Okay you got me on that one--what's a "lap" job? Sure don't want to sound stupid when I ask for one.
Have a great day!
Dave
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Post by minst7877 on May 25, 2009 23:24:11 GMT -5
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Post by davewolf on May 26, 2009 23:06:55 GMT -5
Thanks folks:
Talked to our gunsmith today and he's going to give the mounts and rings a look. Claims he can bore-sight it before and after he checks it over and recommends blue loc-tite. He feels by bore-sighting it before and then charting the scopes setting now and charting it--he can get it back to where it was--or close to it.
He claims lock-tite blue is rubber based and will absorb the shock, better than most tighteners.
I feel confident he will do a good job after a lengthy discussion with him. And I wanted to thank droptine for lending me an ear and a lot of advice! I enjoyed our conversation immensely.
Have a great day!
Dave
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Post by davewolf on May 30, 2009 21:52:46 GMT -5
Gosh,
I now have had the bases and rings redone and have sent the fore end off to T/C's service center. I can hardly stand it--waiting for my fore-end so I can go shoot again.
Am I addicted?
Have a great day!
Dave
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