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Post by hunter on May 14, 2009 20:19:14 GMT -5
Has anyone used Blackhorn 209 in a 700ml?
I bought a bottle to try and when I received it I noticed on the
label, not to use with an open breach plug which my 700ml has.
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Post by grouse on May 14, 2009 20:41:12 GMT -5
I heard it doesn't work. You might as well give it a try.
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Post by younghunter86 on May 14, 2009 20:49:11 GMT -5
hunter-
Do you have the 209 primer setup? If not, I don't think you'll get it to ignite.
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Post by hunter on May 15, 2009 5:58:46 GMT -5
Younghunter;
Yes I have the 209 ignition system but the 209 nipple has 4 open slots.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2009 17:24:43 GMT -5
hunter,
I have a Ruger 77/50 and it has an open breech design. It is similar to your Remington. I modified the breech plug on mine by drilling the flash hole from .027 to .035 and started using CCI mag primers and it shoots BH great now. Before it would hangfire about half the time. Someone on the MM forum wrote a couple months ago on how they were using BH in their Remington. The only problem is that sometimes the primers come out in two pieces. It's not a safety issue in my Ruger but not sure about the Remington. What does your breechplug look like up close, got any pictures?
Zen
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Post by hunter on May 15, 2009 19:41:03 GMT -5
Sorry, I dont have any pictures.
The rem. breach plug is exposed and is hex headed with a slot cut out of each flat so you can use a pick to get under the primer to get it out.
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Post by larryfox1 on May 15, 2009 21:13:22 GMT -5
Yes BlackHorn 209 will work as long as you got the 209 Primer Conversion Kit in.You also need a Wheather Shield in place.to help cut back on blowback pieces from being blow into your eyes and face. I Have shot BH209 in my Rem 700ML alot it shoots it great without any hangfires are misfires Has anyone used Blackhorn 209 in a 700ml? I bought a bottle to try and when I received it I noticed on the label, not to use with an open breach plug which my 700ml has. |
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Post by hunter on May 16, 2009 5:56:45 GMT -5
larryfox1,
What powder charges have you used? I previously used 100 gr of pyrodex powder and was thinking of trying 80 and 85 gr. of the blackhorn with a 240 gr .429 bullet and harvester sabot.
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Post by larryfox1 on May 16, 2009 21:50:35 GMT -5
Well.mine shot good with 100 Grains of BH209 and a 250 Gr,Barnes T-EZ larryfox1, What powder charges have you used? I previously used 100 gr of pyrodex powder and was thinking of trying 80 and 85 gr. of the blackhorn with a 240 gr .429 bullet and harvester sabot. |
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Post by screwbolts on May 18, 2009 9:27:24 GMT -5
larryfox1, What powder charges have you used? I previously used 100 gr of pyrodex powder and was thinking of trying 80 and 85 gr. of the blackhorn with a 240 gr .429 bullet and harvester sabot. I shot BH209 out of a Knight T-bolt and 80 Gr.V BH209 gives me the same speed as 95 Gr of pyrodex RS. 1500 FPS chronograph. 22" barrel. I have shot the Harvester Green sabots with .430 240 gr swaged lead bullets from Hornady. With BH209 it will be very important that you have a tight sabot fit. Knurl your bullets to increase there diameter till you get a fit that takes a minimum of 40 Lbs. to push down the barrel. ( knurl by rolling bullets between two files) I don't clean between shots, nothing no patch nothing! Good luck, ken Ken |
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Post by hunter on May 22, 2009 6:03:20 GMT -5
My 700ml has the 21" barrel. Will the 209 burn fast enough in the short barrel?
Also what cleaning technique do you use with the blackhorn 209 powder?
Do you need to clean your gun right after shooting, or can you wait a week or so if I plan to shoot two weekends in a row?
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Post by reloader on May 26, 2009 13:53:00 GMT -5
I couldn't even get 777 pellets to light off in a 700ML. They would hang fire or misfire most of the time with win 209s. Way too much fire blows out of the slits in front of the primer. There were some high speed pics on the net at one time showing how much fire blows out on the 700ML breech plug. Terrible design. You could have a new plug made or possibly have the existing plug altered.
Good Luck
Reloader
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