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Post by davewolf on May 13, 2009 18:37:36 GMT -5
Particulars: 100-yards, no cleaning or swabbing between shots.
Temp-mid-70's, 10, 15 mile per hour winds, low humidity. 100-grs. BH 209 Windy was more than kind enough to send me some bullets and Sabots to try. I started out with Shockwave 250-grain and supplied sabots that came with the bullets. The results are shown above. The next 3-shots were using the same bullet, only using crushed sabots, that loads alot easier and shot a lot better. Some times I left the barrel cool sometimes, I didn't. I made no adjustments, scope or other wise. Shot one at 25-yards and it was 1 1/2 inches low. I was so excited I went ground hog hunting nearby rather than continue testing, But no hogs showed up. Okay windy where do I buy those crushed sabots you sent, " for use with your 250 shockwaves?" Do you other folks believe that the crushed sabot made that much of a difference? Don't worry I'll test everything Windy sent me! Any and all suggestions appreciated as always! Have a great day! Dave
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Post by younghunter86 on May 13, 2009 20:59:41 GMT -5
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Post by kevinbrian on May 13, 2009 21:30:50 GMT -5
Great report!!! And great shooting. My Omega preferrs Harvester sabots as well, only the plain (non crush rib) version.
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Post by davewolf on May 13, 2009 22:24:48 GMT -5
Thanks guys:
Guess you could tell I was excited! And thanks for the link...waiting to be sure that's what he sent and want to get him something he would like, within reason, as well as another guy here...he knows who he is that sent me those short black sabots!
But, I'm far from done, with all of this, so keep those suggestions coming. Got to go to work in the morning--fastest 5-days of vacation just ended. Look like a scratch or fracture on my forearm of the Triumph--have to tear it apart to be sure.
Okay what loads and bullets would you shoot for groundhogs?
Have a great day!
Dave
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Post by whyohe on May 14, 2009 4:45:37 GMT -5
nice shooting! funny how changing ONE component can make such a BIG difference.
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Post by kevin k on May 14, 2009 5:39:21 GMT -5
are them the black crushed rib or the red that you are talking? why i say that is jeff has a lot of the red ones for sale that is what i use with the 452 and the black with 458 just wondering thanks kevin
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Post by davewolf on May 14, 2009 21:11:26 GMT -5
Sorry they were the black ones. Looks like some time till I can get out and tweak the thing. Just love all of this. Where did Windy go? I want to be sure the link points me to the right sabots!
Have a great day!
Dave
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Post by wilmsmeyer on May 16, 2009 10:13:36 GMT -5
For ground hogs, I would shoot the load that shot the tightest groups...Any bullet is adequate for these rodents.
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Post by grouse on May 16, 2009 13:16:45 GMT -5
Good job with your triumph.  |
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Post by davewolf on May 16, 2009 18:17:55 GMT -5
Thanks, Just ordered 200 crushed sabots shown by the link YH86 posted. Funny I'm not sure that's the final answer, but sure worth pursuing. Been busy, but started looking for hogs tonite on the way home from work. Funny they must have a all went into hiding!  Picked up some more shockwaves and hope my sabot arrive before Wed. Hate to try anything else. But why not Powerbelts when the weather turns hot, or sabotless? Still have to be sure my forearm isn't cracked (hairline) need to give a real close look, and if it is I hope T/C takes care of it without me sending the gun back. I do want to work loads both up and down and will need to add BH209 to my shopping list, To this point the Triumph hasn't tasted anything but. I do want to keep tweaking so any and all suggestions appreciated. Have a great day! Dave |
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Post by davewolf on May 20, 2009 21:24:53 GMT -5
Just wanted to thank YH86, for the link to those crushed sabots. Ordered them Friday nite, 200 of them, and they arrived before noon today.
As soon as they arrived I head for Game lands in hopes of taking my first groundhog with the Triumph. Kind of disappointing, because I sat and stalked a field that was about 500-yards long and 100 wide for three and a half hours. Never saw one groundhog! But I took some photos and gained the feel of the rifle, and when I left I tried for the first time to unscrew the breech plug by hand. It came out and I dumped out the powder and pushed the crushed sabot and SW bullet out with the ramrod and then added the bullet started to give it a bump. The bullet and sabot came out without any damage and clean-up tonight took minutes.
I hope to get back to the range and hunt for groundhogs again soon!
Thanks to everyone for all your help. I sure am beginning to love this gun! Hope to have another target or g-hog soon!
It's all about time!
Have a great day!
Dave
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Post by younghunter86 on May 21, 2009 7:51:48 GMT -5
davewolf-
Any further developments regarding your forearm? Keep after those 'chucks!
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Post by davewolf on May 21, 2009 10:05:57 GMT -5
YH;
I took the forearm off and checked it thoroughly. I wanted to be sure that it wasn't cracked as it seemed to be at fist glance. Odd that a deep scratch would run like this / only at more of an angle and can't figure out how it came into being. But I can't find any cracks on top or inside. I want to do more shooting before I can say for certain.
May shoot over the Holiday weekend if the range isn't too crowded. Any ideas on how to tell if it's a scratch or a stress fracture beyond what I've already done? Hate to make a false claim if indeed somehow it got scratched--although I don't have a clue how it would of. I'm careful with my rifles here. at the range and while hunting.
I sure will keep on shooting and hunting and would assume if it is a stress fracture it would increase? Any thoughts?
Have a great day!
Dave
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Post by younghunter86 on May 21, 2009 13:31:07 GMT -5
I would call TC and see what they think about the forearm. Maybe send them a pic? I would guess it is proabably just a scratch. However, if it is indeed a crack, and fails at some point, I would bet that TC would stand behind it. Especially if you notify them about it now. Just my 0.02
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Post by grouse on May 22, 2009 21:36:01 GMT -5
YH; I took the forearm off and checked it thoroughly. I wanted to be sure that it wasn't cracked as it seemed to be at fist glance. Odd that a deep scratch would run like this / only at more of an angle and can't figure out how it came into being. But I can't find any cracks on top or inside. I want to do more shooting before I can say for certain. May shoot over the Holiday weekend if the range isn't too crowded. Any ideas on how to tell if it's a scratch or a stress fracture beyond what I've already done? Hate to make a false claim if indeed somehow it got scratched--although I don't have a clue how it would of. I'm careful with my rifles here. at the range and while hunting. I sure will keep on shooting and hunting and would assume if it is a stress fracture it would increase? Any thoughts? Have a great day! Dave After this weekend mail the forearm back right away. Before you know it, hunting season will be here. Do not mail the whole gun back. |
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Post by davewolf on May 22, 2009 22:47:04 GMT -5
Gees folks:
I don't want to mail back the entire gun. I looked at it again and think I will give them a call after the Holiday weekend. I would like to get in more shooting this week and will drive by the range to see how crowded it is.
Took a run to Trops Gun Shop tonight and picked up two jugs of BH209 and two packs of CCIM primers--of course I saw the newer flip-up ramrod for T/C's and after jawing with their blackpowder 'expert'. I bought it too.
So now I have enough Shockwaves, BH209 and primers to last me some time. Hopefully over the weekend I will find time to take a photo of the pile of "stuff" I've accumulated over the past couple of months. Gonna have to eat Peanut Butter and jelly sandwiches for a while.
Okay so where do you folks store all this stuff!
Have a great day!
Dave
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Post by grouse on May 23, 2009 7:21:31 GMT -5
That's what i said, don't mail back the entire gun. Just mail back the forearm.  |
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Post by davewolf on May 23, 2009 17:31:04 GMT -5
I know that's what you said, think I'll call first to see what they have to say, perhaps they can tell by the line if it is molded there?
Now how do you store all this stuff--powder--primars and bullets?
Thanks, again.
Have a great day!
Dave
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Post by kevin k on May 23, 2009 19:25:43 GMT -5
Dave you can send it to me to store lol no? oh well I keep my stuff in the army bullet cases big ones for powder smaller ones for bullets and primers it works for me very well. Kevin
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Post by grouse on May 23, 2009 20:53:14 GMT -5
I know that's what you said, think I'll call first to see what they have to say, perhaps they can tell by the line if it is molded there? Now how do you store all this stuff--powder--primars and bullets? Thanks, again. Have a great day! Dave I have everything on a shelf with doors. I do run a dehumidifier all the time. |
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Post by davewolf on May 24, 2009 11:23:45 GMT -5
Thanks Grouse;
I'm really pressed for space---with all my fly rods, reels, and fly-tying equipment. Now that I've added a load of Inline 'stuff' my space problem has increase. I do have three dry boxes and may need to add another, if they work.
I'm starting to get concerned as humid weather has set in an summer has only started!
Have a great day!
Dave
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Picked up some more shockwaves and hope my sabot arrive before Wed. Hate to try anything else. But why not Powerbelts when the weather turns hot, or sabotless?