Well, I ALMOST shot my best and most rewarding FIVE shot 600 yard group! Unfortunately, when you shoot registered competition, you have to include all five shots. Just today at the match, one the better shooters had a group that measured right around 1". Unfortunately, the scoring committee and referees could only count FOUR holes? I and a bunch of other also looked closely and could only identify four holes. Either the fifth bullet passed perfectly thru one of the holes or it blew up before getting to the target or........it was a bad bullet or WHATEVER? In any event, he got a DNQ As far as the One Democrat that went high in my group? Who know? There were plenty of four and one groups that showed vertical. We had 34 shooters. Score wise I kept them pretty centered and had a 194 out of 200 which got me second place. Group wise, I averaged 2.2" for four five shot targets and came in 9th. That (second place score and ninth place group) put me 4th. in the grand aggregate for heavy gun. I also claimed 2nd. place in score with a 191 in light gun. The competition was tough.
Post by wilmsmeyer on Jul 13, 2014 13:57:50 GMT -5
What's up the the one "way" out high and left? Instead of separating the heart from the lungs on a deer, You may have only got a center lung shot. Now instead of a 25 yd blood trail it's more like 50!!!
You better tighten that thing up!!
Seriously though, that is one awesome group. And to be that centered at that range is very cool. Was the wind light or were you doping every shot?
Nice trigger work in any event. My best ever 5 shot group at 600 yds was with my .243 and 55 NBT's at 4000 fps. 3 1/2" and fairly repeatable. We are talking a bi-pod, prone and a rear bag. However, the groups were NEVER at the intended POI. Just a slight breeze was enough to move a group over 12" left or right. My goal was woodchucks at the time and regardless of great groups, if you can't dope the wind, you will miss these critters at that distance even with a gun that can group sub MOA. You need it all. Exact yardage, consistent load, great rest. no wind, or the ability to judge it, and some luck. Makes those 2000 yd sniper shots seem all the better!
My longest kill shot ever with this gun? 425 yds, and several between 350 and 425. 300 and in and they were dead 90% of the time.
That REAL long distance stuff is surely for the pros as the variables get exponentially multiplied.
Love it!! I just zeroed my .243 yesterday for about 100 reloads that I had laying around for the above load. These loads are 10 years old and I was immediately gratified by the 3/4" clusters I printed @ 100 yds with not much effort. My step son is working on a farm and he's getting sick of losing woodchucks with solid hits over 100 yds with his 17 HMR. Big ones can soak these 17's up with a body shot. He knows my .243 well and has killed his first buck and a handful of chucks with it. When I handed him the rifle yesterday with 50 rds, I was excited for him.. I think his success ratio and DRT ratio just went up.
Thanks guys.............! Old Mossy..........if you look on the picture you will see the cartridge is a wildcat 6mm built on a BR case which has the shoulder pushed .100" forward but still keeps the 30* shoulder. The neck then shortens by the same .100 and leaves it .200" long. The stock is custom with the action being the Stiller Viper with a Brux barrel and jewel trigger. Scope is Leupold 40x competition. Rifle weights 16.5 lbs. I shoot it in both light class and heavy class. When I shoot it in heavy, I add two leather shot filled "saddle bags" which raises the weight another 17 lbs..............This is legal since heavy class is anything OVER 17 lbs. A number of shooters are using rifles weighting 50 to 60 lbs as this is what IBS allows in both 600 and 1K matches. So when you ask what kind of rifle? It takes some explaining. I wish I could have gotten that one Democrat to joining the Republican party in the "X" ring. Wind for the most part was pretty good. There was however a lot of mirage, which causes some shooters problems. I tend to watch the "bull" dance around and try to just keep the cross hairs centered within the movement. I also watch for the mirage when it starts "running!". If I can pick up the mirage running during my sight in period, I will fire a shot and see where I hit...........then make a scope change of maybe only a click or so. At the end of the sight in period I will watch the mirage and any wind flags out. If they have remained the same when we get the "commence fire" call, I will shoot five shots as fast as I can.........for me, that is about 30 to 40 sec. Some can do it in 20 to 25. Your rifle and rest have to be set up properly so just your shoulder nudges the butt up against the front rest "stop". The better your set up where the cross hairs come back on your POA, the faster you can get your next shot off. Your cases have to fit the chamber perfectly so you do not have to CRANK down on the bolt handle to close it and when you extract, the handle must lift up easily so you don't disturb the rifle in the bags. Its a fun and challenging game both at the bench and in my shop preparing my cartridges. Because this is how I compete, I get a little hung up on the five shot groups...........although I full well realize most members here are hunters and as such are satisfied with three shot groups. Richard
great shooting,thats a real pisser for your bud that had the 4 holes & if in fact the 5th went into one of the others. years ago in a non-sanctioned 1,000yd 50bmg static match I took 4th out of 30 shooters. after I got home very close examination of my target I found 2 additional holes within other shots that were not counted,i probably would have moved me up one spot.
in 50bmg sanctioned matches they have pits with a person pasting each shot so there can be no error of shot counting. different type of benchrest.
Richard- is that barrel a hummer or all the 6mm brx's that you set up shoot somewhat comparable in the right hands?
Edge............Moving backers are only required at NBRSA and IBS short range (100, 200 300 yard) group matches. It is an extra expense and it takes more time to change targets along with the backers. So far there has not been any push for the moving backers in long range BR. It could come in the future if enough complaints get registered. Usually, if there is ANY semblance of the fifth shot being "there?", they will award it to the shooter. In the event that the group would be a possible contender for a "record", it would be sent to the IBS scoring committee up in PA. and they would get the last word on whether or not five shots were present. Deadeye...........That is a hard question to answer? About two years ago, if you recall, Herman shot a .778" five shot group with a Brux barrel I chambered in the same cartridge. Actually, at that time I bought three barrels in one clip. I chambered one each for Herman, Bill and myself..............all BRX's. Bill was having problems with his blowing/piercing primers.......I eventually sent the barrel back to Brux with the thought that the bore was too tight (These are all .236") I was not having problems with mine nor was Herman. Brux examined it and said it was within their spec's but sent me a new one anyway. After that, his problem somewhat disappeared or he just backed off more on his loads. He was shooting them with the same charges and bullets Herman and I were using? Anyway, he subsequently had me re-chamber it to a straight 6mmBR..........but, like everything else, there is no way to compare barrels with different shooters pulling the trigger and preparing loads. So, do all Brux barrels shoot? Who knows? Put two different drivers in one race car and have them each turn laps........One runs faster than the other?. I have a new Brux and a Krieger barrel sitting under my work bench. The way my present barrel is shooting, I am in no hurry to change it. After some 1500 rounds the throat and bore look pristine. I shoot all moly coated bullets. No cleaning during the light and heavy gun matches..........Usually around 60 shots...............20 each for record in light and heavy along with maybe 20 sighters during the course of the day. WFhen I get home I do a mild JB cleaning and thats it. Richard