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Post by zakjak221 on Aug 2, 2011 13:19:13 GMT -5
Was wondering how many of you guys use wool wads betw sabot & powder?
I haven't tried them yet,but was reading an older post where someone said they contribute to accuracy and protect sabot.
I could understand why sabotless shooters using them.
I don't see many posts/comments about them though?
Mark
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Post by Richard on Aug 2, 2011 15:19:40 GMT -5
Mark........I think I might have tried them with the .50 when I was struggling for accuracy, but never the .45? And at that, I don't recall them being some kind of "Mecca or Holy Grail?" Had they worked, I would still be using them ;D
Richard
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Post by Dave W on Aug 2, 2011 19:52:57 GMT -5
Some people have swore by them but they never offered any gain in accuracy for me in the .50. Velocity was always slower also. JME
I did use veggies in the .45 when I still shot sabots with one load to protect from intermittent sabot failure.
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Aug 3, 2011 5:10:25 GMT -5
I've never seen a benefit in using them in the .50 with sabots. They were a big help when using the wrong powder at too much pressure back in the old days. So were the MMP sub-bases. However, that was not really a good way to "fix" that problem. The fix was to use the correct powders to gain speed...not sabot protecting wads.
Some have mentions that the wad...sometimes lightly greased...helps removed some fouling from the last shot when you reload. IMO, nothing good comes from this for a few reasons. One....all that fouling gets pushed down on your perfectly clean, dry powder charge. and two....any "grease" however light will have no positive effect as it is driven into that perfectly clean, dry powder charge and left there for a few hours or days.
Keep in mind, I'm coming from the angle of a hunter...not a bench shooter that shoots every shot within minutes of reloading where the effects of these situations have way less time to change the dynamics of a gun left loaded for a brief or longer period of time. BUT...being a hunter means a lot of bench time too....and it's easy to try different things on the bench...see a perceived benefit from them and then have a different experience in the field. That's when the head scratching begins.
However, some still use them.
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Post by esshup on Aug 3, 2011 10:35:24 GMT -5
I use Wonder Wads in my .50's. 43g 4759, mmp short sabot, 250g SST Blems. They make loading much easier in the field, and I saw no increase or decrease in accuracy on the bench with one gun, the other one likes a sub base over the powder, then the Wonder Wad then the sabot//bullet. I've got enough components to last for quite a number of hunting seasons, and until I start to run out I'm not going to experiment to see if there is anything better for that gun. 3 shot groups between 1/2 and 3/4 moa from the bench is repeatable and I'm not messing with it! (that's my ML-I)
I've left loads in th gun for 6 months and while the shot wasn't the usual MOA at 100 Yds, it was less than 2 MOA, so I have no fears about leaving it loaded the whole season.
The ML-II is getting a .45 barrel this year, so I won't be using lubed wads for it.
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