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Post by excisac on Jul 5, 2011 23:15:13 GMT -5
I still have not ordered a barrel for my 700 ML build. I was waiting to see how the McGowen barrels were going to perform before committing myself. With McGowen now not selling prefits unless they headspace it on the action I began to wonder how is Pacnor able to manufacture a barrel and sell it without requiring their staff to fit the barrel to the action? If McGowen found significant measurement differences between 700ML actions how has Pacnor not encountered the same issues?
The reason I am asking these questions is I want to do much of the work myself including the headspacing. If I need to order a Pacnor barrel to be able to headspace it myself will I encounter some problems that McGowen found?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2011 1:46:33 GMT -5
My gunsmith put my McGowen on. Seeing how hard it was for him to remove the old barrel I thought it was going to be expensive. Only $40 though. I did nothing to the Savage breech plug McGowen supplied with the barrel. I can use Win209's, Fed209A's and CCI209M primers. Primers are pretty clean and no blowback comes through the threads of the plug. I guess I lucked out.
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Post by fishhawk on Jul 6, 2011 8:53:05 GMT -5
The differences in action/bolts is minimal. The problems McGowen experienced were mostly self inflicted (in my opinion). I've now headspaced 6 of the 700ML's 2 w/Pacnor, 4 w/McGowen. None of these were a problem following the guidelines in the tutorial. I plan on talking with McGowen about issues and try convincing them to take up the prefit barrels again. I'll keep everyone posted. If this doesn't work, I'll talk to Synarms about prefits.
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Post by lwh723 on Jul 6, 2011 22:44:20 GMT -5
The differences in action/bolts is minimal. The problems McGowen experienced were mostly self inflicted (in my opinion). I've now headspaced 6 of the 700ML's 2 w/Pacnor, 4 w/McGowen. None of these were a problem following the guidelines in the tutorial. I plan on talking with McGowen about issues and try convincing them to take up the prefit barrels again. I'll keep everyone posted. If this doesn't work, I'll talk to Synarms about prefits. Thanks for your work on this.
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Post by dave d. on Jul 7, 2011 20:19:18 GMT -5
:)there is nothing hard about headspacing for the 700ml. Myself and pacnor and some of our members worked on it for awhile to get the prefit dimensions we needed to make sure it worked for all. All the actions we measured had no more the .013 difference so we made the headspace to the shortest one so that the most a guy would have to do is file off .013 off his plug. The biggest problem with the mcgowen is there logo on the barrel which it looks like they won't remove which would eliminate the whole problem. Goodluck Greg with mcgowen
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 22:53:55 GMT -5
Dave,
I am just curious where Pacnor puts their engraving or does it come naked?
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Post by dave d. on Jul 8, 2011 6:19:31 GMT -5
Steve naked.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2011 9:13:10 GMT -5
Dave you are correct, I think it had little to do with the headspace issue. I think it is all about the marking on the barrel after my emails with Dan.
I think the better option might be to get Devin @ sinarms to do the mcgowen prefits. i am going to ask him about this as well as Brux prefits for the 700 ml and the savage....Bill
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Post by hoz on Jul 8, 2011 9:35:23 GMT -5
Guys, Keep us posted as I have another conversion in the works!
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Post by Jon on Jul 8, 2011 13:06:10 GMT -5
Sounds interesting as I'm thinking about a 40 cal. actually a .392/.400 I have either a Remington ml action with a hunter kit on the bolt or a ml1 action I have stocks for both. Keep us informed.
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