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6.5x55
Jun 7, 2011 20:12:08 GMT -5
Post by stevewv on Jun 7, 2011 20:12:08 GMT -5
Anybody here load for the Swede in modern rifles? I'll be loading for a Ruger M77 MkII. I've fallen in love with this cartridge, & wouldn't give it up for love nor money. I just hate paying $31.00 - $35.00 a box for ammo.
I've bought some Alliant Reloder 22, IMR 4350, 140 grain Nosler Partitions & Hornady SSTs, CCI & Federal LR primers. I be using once fired Remington & Winchester cases. I'll be loading on a Hornady Lock-N-Load single stage press.
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6.5x55
Jun 7, 2011 20:31:53 GMT -5
Post by smokepole50 on Jun 7, 2011 20:31:53 GMT -5
46gr of RL-22 and a 140gr Sierra SP or any 140gr bullet. This load is safe in all my 1896 Swedish actioned rifles. You can probably spin it up a bit hotter in you M77 action. I take it to 48gr in a 98 actioned Tweed I built using a (New) Swedish 1896 29" barrel and a Turkish 98 action threaded for a small ring barrel. It prints less then 1 inch and hammers whitetails....... ) PS............Use the IMR4350 with 120gr Remington Core-lok bullets for a blazing 3000+ fps loading. I'll have to look at my data and get back to you. Smokepole50
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6.5x55
Jun 8, 2011 8:02:08 GMT -5
Post by mountainam on Jun 8, 2011 8:02:08 GMT -5
It's too bad the 6.5x55 is too often overlooked in the country because it is an inherently accurate round. I wrung out a friends CZ550 for him and here were my best loads: 120gr Sierra spitzer; H4831SC @51grs;R-P case;WLR primer--2875fps; 3/8"@100yds.
120gr Sierra spitzer;H4350@ 49.0grs;R-P case;WLR primer--3004fps; 1/2"@100yds.
140gr Sierra SPBT; H4350@49.0grs;R-P case;WLR primer-- 2800+fps; 1/2"@100yds.
Your 77 don't know what caliber it's shooting and will take the 60,000+ psi that factory .270 rounds produce. The loading data in most manuals are to be safe in the whimpy 1895/1896 Swede Mauser. The rifle I was tuning was producing Varmint Rifle accuracy. Good Shooting!
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6.5x55
Jun 8, 2011 9:22:05 GMT -5
Post by stevewv on Jun 8, 2011 9:22:05 GMT -5
Thanks fellas. I used the Swede to hammer 2 deer last fall with factory 140 grain Remington Core-Lokts, and have switched to it as my main deer rifle from my 1966 Remington 700 in .308. The .308 has the old style stock & metal butt plate which pounds like a much larger caliber.
I have most of the current reloading manuals. I have: Accurate Version 3.5 (2011), Alliant (2011), Barnes #4 (2008), Hodgdon #27 (1998) & 2011 update, Hornady #8 (2010), Lee #2 (2003), Lyman #49 (2008), Norma #1 (2004), Nosler #6 (2007), Sierra #5 (2003), Speer #14 (2007), Vihtavuori #4 (includes Lapua) (2006).
I also have Wolfe Publishing's Propellant Profiles, Ken Water's Pet Loads (thru update #24), a current subscription to Handloader magazine with a complete set of back issues.
I'm new to handloading. My goal is to not only save money, but also to find the most accurate round for each of my rifles. I own a 22-250 Remington, 243 Winchester, 308 Winchester, 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser, 300 WSM, & a 7mm Mag.
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6.5x55
Jun 8, 2011 15:01:05 GMT -5
Post by stevewv on Jun 8, 2011 15:01:05 GMT -5
The 6.5x55 is an inherently accurate round, plus it penetrates deeply & has extremely light recoil. The light recoil aids in practice for marksmanship competitions & hunting. It is a great choice for youngsters, women, small framed men, & people that are recoil sensitive. It has won numerous 300 meter shooting competitions in Europe for over 100 years. It has also been used to kill more moose in Scandinavia than all other rounds combined. It was developed in the early 1890s, and in Jan 1894 was accepted, by the joint military board, as the military cartridge for both of the kingdoms of Sweden & Norway. It also has the ability to accurately shoot a large span of bullet weights, from 77 to 165 grains.
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6.5x55
Jun 8, 2011 21:59:31 GMT -5
Post by smokepole50 on Jun 8, 2011 21:59:31 GMT -5
If your just going to be shooting Whitetail deer I think you can get by with a cheaper bullet. I love Sierra Game King bullets and the 140 gr Sierra BTSP will get the job done every time you pull the trigger. The Remington Core-lok should not be over looked either. The 120gr Rem. CLSP will hammer a deer at 3000 fps and they are accurate enough for most shots the average deer hunter will ever take. I like Nosler and Hornaday bullets and they have their place but with the cross sectional density of the 6.5 bullet in 140 grains you just don't need a bullet with a partition in it. I use the Partition bullet in my 7mm Mag and the 140gr .284 bullet slams deer very well at any range.
Smokepole50
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6.5x55
Jun 10, 2011 4:45:29 GMT -5
Post by cfvickers on Jun 10, 2011 4:45:29 GMT -5
Nothing to add but if Jesus carried a gun it would surely be a Swedish Mauser. I reload a lot of 6.5x55 and 6.5 about everything, but smokepole gives sound advice and one more plug for a 140 Sierra game king. It makes white tails fall down yesterday and stay there.
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6.5x55
Jun 10, 2011 13:39:13 GMT -5
Post by stevewv on Jun 10, 2011 13:39:13 GMT -5
If your just going to be shooting Whitetail deer I think you can get by with a cheaper bullet. I love Sierra Game King bullets and the 140 gr Sierra BTSP will get the job done every time you pull the trigger. The Remington Core-lok should not be over looked either. The 120gr Rem. CLSP will hammer a deer at 3000 fps and they are accurate enough for most shots the average deer hunter will ever take. I like Nosler and Hornaday bullets and they have their place but with the cross sectional density of the 6.5 bullet in 140 grains you just don't need a bullet with a partition in it. I use the Partition bullet in my 7mm Mag and the 140gr .284 bullet slams deer very well at any range. Smokepole50 10-4. I just wanted to try the Partition out, & had decided to load for the 6.5x55 first, as the factory loads are a little anemic. Plus I can load them for $14.20 a box versus $31.00 or more for factory Remington Core-Lokts or Winchester Power Points. I always use my "deer loads" at the range or when varmint hunting. I have never used lighter or cheaper loads to practice with, even in my blackpowder guns. That way I do not have to re-zero with the hunting loads before deer season. Just for the sake of discussion, if I don't need the Partition in the 6.5x55 for whitetails, why do you use it in the 7mm Mag for whitetails?
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6.5x55
Jun 10, 2011 13:41:04 GMT -5
Post by stevewv on Jun 10, 2011 13:41:04 GMT -5
Nothing to add but if Jesus carried a gun it would surely be a Swedish Mauser. I reload a lot of 6.5x55 and 6.5 about everything, but smokepole gives sound advice and one more plug for a 140 Sierra game king. It makes white tails fall down yesterday and stay there. Thanks. I planned on trying the Game Kings out in my 308 & 6.5x55, eventually.
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6.5x55
Jun 11, 2011 19:05:43 GMT -5
Post by rjhans53 on Jun 11, 2011 19:05:43 GMT -5
side note folks. I have built a 6.5 x 55 on a vanguard action. I've never had any problem with the brass and the bolt face (experience is mauser standard bolt face and howa bolt face). Hornady, remington work great, lapua does not. I have a friend that has a couple of 6.5's and he wanted me to run a few rounds threw the crony while I have it set up, It will seat but will not eject unless the bolt is pulled and worked out. Oh the vanguard has a Mc Gowen barrel on it, best group to date (2 range trips) is .187 @ 50.
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6.5x55
Jun 11, 2011 21:55:22 GMT -5
Post by stevewv on Jun 11, 2011 21:55:22 GMT -5
side note folks. I have built a 6.5 x 55 on a vanguard action. I've never had any problem with the brass and the bolt face (experience is mauser standard bolt face and howa bolt face). Hornady, remington work great, lapua does not. I have a friend that has a couple of 6.5's and he wanted me to run a few rounds threw the crony while I have it set up, It will seat but will not eject unless the bolt is pulled and worked out. Oh the vanguard has a Mc Gowen barrel on it, best group to day (2 range trips) is .187 @ 50. Thanks for the tip. I've read numerous times in Handloader & other magazines that Norma brass is the best, it lasts the longest & works fine in every rifle tested.
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6.5x55
Jun 12, 2011 13:10:34 GMT -5
Post by rjhans53 on Jun 12, 2011 13:10:34 GMT -5
The rebarrelled vanguard that I've just completed last week. I've been to the range with it 3 times and ran my 46 gr of 22 threw the crono yesterday, it ended up in the mid 25's, I upped the re 22 to the max by the speer manual, she be a keeper. the round is 3 at 50 the other is 3 at 100 and just over 2700 this is 3 @ 100
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6.5x55
Jun 13, 2011 18:18:08 GMT -5
Post by smokepole50 on Jun 13, 2011 18:18:08 GMT -5
Stevemd..........
The reason I ended up using the 140 gr Nosler Partition bullet in my 7mm Mag is because at 3250fps most other (.284 ) 7mm bullets come apart when they hit bone at less then 100 yards. I started off reloading for my 7mm Mag with 140gr Nosler Ballistic Tips and I found that I did not like the little specks of lead in the wound channel of the deer. I found that I could use the 150gr 7mm Nosler BT and not experience as much bullet fragmentation but I like the way the 140gr bullets fly in my 7mm Mag and the Nosler Partition holds up the best. I have shot the Sierra 7mm 140gr bullets in my 7mm Mauser rifles and they did great on whitetails in the 2800 fps range. The biggest difference in bullet performance is the cross sectional density of the bullet. The (.264) 6.5mm bullet in a 140gr weight is a perfect balance of bullet length and bullet width so you have plenty of bullet nose to expand and the base punches on threw over a wide range of velocity. With the larger (.284) 7mm 140gr bullet and the 3250fps of the 7mm Mag the bullet can be effectively to short to withstand the impact with flesh and bone at close range and high velocity.
Smokepole50
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6.5x55
Jun 13, 2011 19:32:33 GMT -5
Post by stevewv on Jun 13, 2011 19:32:33 GMT -5
Stevemd.......... The reason I ended up using the 140 gr Nosler Partition bullet in my 7mm Mag is because at 3250fps most other (.284 ) 7mm bullets come apart when they hit bone at less then 100 yards. I started off reloading for my 7mm Mag with 140gr Nosler Ballistic Tips and I found that I did not like the little specks of lead in the wound channel of the deer. I found that I could use the 150gr 7mm Nosler BT and not experience as much bullet fragmentation but I like the way the 140gr bullets fly in my 7mm Mag and the Nosler Partition holds up the best. I have shot the Sierra 7mm 140gr bullets in my 7mm Mauser rifles and they did great on whitetails in the 2800 fps range. The biggest difference in bullet performance is the cross sectional density of the bullet. The (.264) 6.5mm bullet in a 140gr weight is a perfect balance of bullet length and bullet width so you have plenty of bullet nose to expand and the base punches on threw over a wide range of velocity. With the larger (.284) 7mm 140gr bullet and the 3250fps of the 7mm Mag the bullet can be effectively to short to withstand the impact with flesh and bone at close range and high velocity. Smokepole50 I suspected as much, but had to ask. I have a 7mm Mag as well. Thanks.
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