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Jun 4, 2011 11:44:54 GMT -5
Post by lonewolf172 on Jun 4, 2011 11:44:54 GMT -5
I joined about 1-2 weeks ago and so far the members in Modern Muzzle loaders have been really helpful. I plan on buying a TC Triumph Bone Collector in a couple of weeks and mounting a Bushnell 250 DOA, which I already have, scope on it. So far I am looking at working up loads using 90-110 grains of Pyrodex Rs or Select and either a 260gr or 300gr Harvester Scorpion PT Gold bullets with black CR Sabots. In the old days, 25-30 years ago, when I shot traditional MLs we use to slug the barrels to find the proper ball diameter and patch to use. So my question is this. Would this also be helpful or are the barrels on the Bone Collector pretty much standard? Also, I just thought of another question. I hear 777 causes "crud ring" hard fouling as opposed to say Pyrodex RS or Select. Is this a real problem I should be concerned about if I clean the barrel after each shot?
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Jun 4, 2011 13:36:54 GMT -5
Post by deadon on Jun 4, 2011 13:36:54 GMT -5
777 is no problem if you use 777 Primers. I always wet patched and then dry patched after every shot, Rusty
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Jun 5, 2011 11:05:05 GMT -5
Post by GMB54-120 on Jun 5, 2011 11:05:05 GMT -5
I never saw a noticeable crud ring difference with a WinT7 primer vs a standard strength primer. Besides the extra $3 missing from my wallet. It did seem like milder charge of 3FG had less of a crud ring vs 2FG and much better than T7 pellets. Mag T7 pellets left the worst ring in every gun i tried.
Swab between each shot if needed with a lightly damp 50/50 mix of generic Windex and rubbing alcohol and the crud ring isnt that big of an issue. Break through the crud ring slowly in short strokes until you break though it then run a dry patch. Trying to clean it out in one hard pass can often cause a stuck patch or jag in the bore.
I quit using T7 a while ago other than testing. My main gripe though isn't the crud ring as much as it can cause a breach plug to stick if you don't break it loose and re tighten it once in awhile at the range.
I never had any of these problems with Pyro P except needing to swab once in a while and its more corrosive. I saw no benefit from the Pyro Select other than its a tiny bit more uniform in grain size.
I finally came to the conclusion if im going to use anything but BH209, i might as well use real black powder and preferably Swiss because it has very good energy and lighter/softer fouling.
T/C barrels may or may not be "standard". Most appear to be tight and using a good bore polish like JBs can make a big difference in loading pressure. Cleaning them EXTREMELY well before the first shot is a MUST!!!! The packing lube is a major PITA to remove and even worse if fired without proper cleaning FIRST.
BTW if you like the BC i would also take a look at the Dream Season based on the Omega action. Its a fine handling rifle and has some of the same features as a BC for a few dollars less.
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Jun 5, 2011 12:02:29 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2011 12:02:29 GMT -5
+1 on the Dream Season Omega. It just feels very nice and balanced when you shoulder it.
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Jun 5, 2011 12:20:23 GMT -5
Post by deadon on Jun 5, 2011 12:20:23 GMT -5
When I was shooting T7 I only used DC Bullets made by Precision Rifle Bullets. PBR recommended one spit patch and a dry patch or two behind it. When using the T7 primers I never had a crud ring problem again. Rusty
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Jun 10, 2011 10:41:39 GMT -5
Post by hornet22savage on Jun 10, 2011 10:41:39 GMT -5
Welcome aboard and remember to have fun. It won't be long and you will be helping newbies along as others have hepled you.
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Sept 30, 2011 2:34:20 GMT -5
Post by lindajamison76 on Sept 30, 2011 2:34:20 GMT -5
Nice to miss you welcome to all
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