Lots of new stuff............

[Richard]

One of our members........gmb54120 was kind enough to send me an array of different bullets to try/test. Unfortunately, I did not get to all but did some. And, of course, one load is not sufficient to tell if a bullet is good or bad, but does at least give an indication of its potential. One of the bullets, a Barnes 155 gr. TAC-XP along with a little lead .22 bullet as an insert....30 gr. (actually it is from North American Arms black powder .22 mini revolver). I inserted it and then pointed it to sort of crimp it in place. This bullet has possibilities. gmb also included two different weight .40 cal. hard cast bullets........ 260 and 220 gr. The 260 were better but not good. The 220?? It went off at 1200 fps with the same charge as the 260. Bill said he saw black stuff come out of the muzzle? Could not find it on the 100 yard target??? Later found it actually hit my 200 yard target??? Definitely a fluke. Not enough pressure I think Also included was a 225 gr. Hawk .40 cal H.P. This was just terrible. The first shot landed about 7" to the right of where the other loads printed. I had to use a new point of aim for the last three.
One load I was really interested in was the one that shot so well for Salvage Shooter............11/59---N-120.H-322 with the 195 Barnes. I went right to 200 yards and with the wind, think this load has good possibilities. I also tried it with the 200 SST and it looked good also. The only thing I did not like was the large Extreme Spreads. These could be a big problem at 300 and beyond.
Savage Shooter had mentioned light loads of 5744 with 200 gr. bullets for ladies and juveniles. So, I tried 35 and 40 gr. with the 200 Nosler H.P. These look real good and are mild kicking.
Richard

[GMB54-120]

Very interesting

First im most impressed with these new Noslers. I can duplicate that velocity (roughly) and try some media tests. Now im really curious how well they will hold together.

Those TAC-XPs look like they shot fairly well too. I wonder how well they shoot without inserts at smokeless speeds. I never took them over 2300fps+/- but they shot well too.

The 260gr didn't shoot well but the ES is really low and that is very close to how fast i shoot them with BH209 but i use a smooth blue with slightly better groups. Im getting right at 1950fps which is right inline with the old 40/65? data.

The Hawks look really disappointing which is sad because they did really well at sub speeds in media. They may have gotten a little lube from some conicals. I used the same ammo box for both and some might have gotten on the Hawks. I actually never got a good load developed for them either. Hunting season got too close so my priorities changed before i had a chance.

Have fun

[tar12]

Richard if you get a chance push a few 200 grn xtps down range with some 5744 in the 35-40 grn range. This will be in line for what the XTP was designed for. This should make a outstanding woman/youth load.

[Richard]

Tar........I will, but kind of think they will perform just like the Noslers.........they are so close in design.
gmb.........again, thanks and will be trying the others in the future.
Richard

[tar12]

Apr 4, 2011 20:50:07 GMT -5 Richard said:

Tar........I will, but kind of think they will perform just like the Noslers.........they are so close in design.
gmb.........again, thanks and will be trying the others in the future.
Richard

I had no clue as to how the Noslers were constructed.

[Savage Shooter]

Apr 4, 2011 20:46:44 GMT -5 tar12 said:

Richard if you get a chance push a few 200 grn xtps down range with some 5744 in the 35-40 grn range. This will be in line for what the XTP was designed for. This should make a outstanding woman/youth load.

I think 4759 will give same speed but lower ES than either N110 or 5744 as singles for these type loads, so should be slightly more accurate.

I believe I remember a couple months ago Richard tracing 4759 as a single at like 50grs and ES were real low and shot a good looking group at speed above 2700.

Either 5744 or 4759 will make good singles at the 35-40gr range with both making speed at 54-57fps/gr. depending on your barrel.