Five shot group for Richard

[153]

I tried some sabotless loads today without much luck. Bullets were so tight I had to beat them down the barrel. I shot but one group because of tightness loading, it was with 250XTP sized to .499 by Richard and knurled up to .504, group was about 4". I then shot this group at 100 yards with 195 Barnes, light blue Harvester sabot and duplex of 11/49 of N110/H322. It alway takes my gun about 7-8 shots to settle in. The first shot in this group was the 7th shot. As you can see shots 3-5 went into one hole, these being shots 9,10 and 11. This was was shot in about six mintues. Load shot, place cool rod in barrel, get next load out remove cool rod after about one mintue then load and shoot. I think the cool rod was the second best investment after the Pac 45 barrel, saves a load of time at the range, THANKS Edge and Richard for helping the rest of us with this.

[dannoboone]

Great shootin'!!

No gettin' around it, the Harvester Blues are a God-send for us
.45 shooters. No real need to go any further.

Wondering if Richard Franklin (of Richard's Custom Guns, now
retired) doesn't have the best idea when it comes to sizing for
sabotless. Using a CF body die, he cuts off the small end and
sizes a bullet through it. It's usually too small for the .45 bore.
He then keeps cutting off the end to the tune of a few thousandths
with his lathe until a sized bullet goes down the bore with eight
pounds of pressure. Then he goes out and shoots woodchucks
out to 500 yards. That die setup is good for only one kind and
weight of bullet, but body dies aren't so expensive.

[Richard]

153..........That is excellent shooting! I could have told you .504" would be extremely tight. When I knurl, I go no higher than .502.
(You will notice that Savage Shooter has been shooting five shot groups also )
Danno.......my initial attempts at sizing bullets was with regular rifle dies that I also trimmed in the lathe. For whatever reason, I had problems with them coming out slightly (.001") uneven? Like when I ran the mic around them they would be narrower on one side than the other? They actually shot as well as the bullets sized in the Lee die. I think, for some reason they were being "canted" when pushed up thru the die I think if one really wants to pursue the "sabot less" route, that Tom Post's die is the way to go.
I now have dies in .448, .449, .4995, .450 and .451". When I knurl up, I then resize in one of the dies to uniform them. I have tried sizing without knurling and I still seem to get some fitting tighter than others? I have even sized them twice? Its almost like some spring back more than others? It is definitely a lot easier to shoot saboted ;D
Richard