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Post by Jon on Apr 2, 2011 14:07:03 GMT -5
Looks like you got something going. Great looking targets. keep up the good work
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Post by Richard on Apr 2, 2011 16:51:40 GMT -5
Wow! That definitely has potential. While it "may" be a fluke, five shots lends a lot of credibility to it. Nice shooting Mark.
Richard
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2011 17:19:54 GMT -5
yes good shooting indeed. need to see some more of that combo
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Post by dave d. on Apr 2, 2011 21:40:30 GMT -5
:)very nice mark.i guess 300yrd targets will be coming soon?
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Post by deadon on Apr 2, 2011 22:45:11 GMT -5
I sure hope this load is not temp sensitive (fingers crossed). I made 2 clicks left before shooting this group, looks like I should'na. While not one big hole like the yesterday afternoon, it has shot under 2" four times now. I think it is due to lower pressure. I am thinking this load is close to the same pressure as 62gr H4198. Needs some cold conditions to verify and I likely won't get that here til next winter, but current conditions will probably be close to our October ML season anyway. Evening 4-2-11  I wonder if putting 5 pre measured powder vials in the freezer and then shooting them would give you any indication of temp sensitivity? couldn't hurt, Rusty |
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Post by Dave W on Apr 2, 2011 22:48:32 GMT -5
Really dialing her in Mark, great shooting!
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Post by Savage Shooter on Apr 3, 2011 10:00:47 GMT -5
This combo is a dead end again. I had noticed it shooting better groups when hot.
Last nite put 5 loads (all components) in freezer in tupperware dish., then moved them onto ice in small cooler and off to the range.
I did not need 5 loads, the first shot went 5" low then the 2nd shot went about an inch above it. I was afraid of this,,,,,moving on.
If had to went in hot conditions this load could be used but do not see it viable in big temp swings.
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Post by Dave W on Apr 3, 2011 10:04:27 GMT -5
Chrony the cold load?
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Post by jims on Apr 3, 2011 10:13:37 GMT -5
SS: Just when I thought that might be the load. At least it lets you try some more expermentation and gives me more to digest. Thanks for the continuing efforts.
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Post by Savage Shooter on Apr 3, 2011 10:42:30 GMT -5
No chrony is down, but didn't really see a need to after it behaved like this. |
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Post by deadeye on Apr 3, 2011 15:08:39 GMT -5
dang it- i thought you had this too-new load development is trying & frustrating-hang with it! these are cantankerous creatures.
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Post by tar12 on Apr 3, 2011 18:00:26 GMT -5
Why would you expect stellar results under artificial conditions that are not on a even playing field? That being a warm gun at ambient temps shooting cold componets? It makes no sense to me that you would or could get results that truly reflect real world conditions while everything is not equal? Enlighten me .....
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Post by Savage Shooter on Apr 3, 2011 19:08:55 GMT -5
Why would you expect stellar results under artificial conditions that are not on a even playing field? That being a warm gun at ambient temps shooting cold components? It makes no sense to me that you would or could get results that truly reflect real world conditions while everything is not equal? Enlighten me ..... Your probably right, Just trying to keep from settling on a load that gives problems when the time comes. Some of members who still may have some cold conditions to shoot in could test to confirm or debunk but the only way for me to test cold is going to be artificial until next fall. I "suspect" it will show temp sensitivity. |
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Post by ET on Apr 3, 2011 19:14:17 GMT -5
Savage Shooter
Before you throw in the towel on this one you might want to try H4198 as your booster with a slightly higher amount.
Hodgdon does advertise that 4198 is supposed to be extremely temp insensitive.
With duplex loads the booster is supposed to not only ignite the slower powder but create a pressure level that should help the primary powder carry a better burn when it begins it’s role.
Not sure how tight your load is but would want a good load resistance with a cooper bullet that has no real obturation property.
Just my thoughts being expressed so consider it for what it’s worth.
Ed
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Post by Richard on Apr 3, 2011 19:19:56 GMT -5
SS...........well, that "bughole" group you shot got me all fired up  I loaded up ten shots for tomorrow and plan on shooting your 11/59 duplex with the Barnes. The wind is supposed to get up tomorrow, but I will try to shoot them first thing in the morning, hopefully it will still be quiet! If it is too windy, I will shoot them at 100 yards. Richard |
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Post by tar12 on Apr 3, 2011 21:59:57 GMT -5
Savageshooter,
I am just asking you to give it a fair shake.Pulling vials of powder out of a freezer starts to immediatly induce condensation.There is no way to keep temps stable in this manner. I see this as putting the cart before the horse so to speak. It will be interesting to see your results next fall/winter.
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Post by dave d. on Apr 4, 2011 5:56:50 GMT -5
:)mark I agree with Rick on that one but your test might have some merit if you tested it with straight h4198 and had no ill effects. Might be worth a try but I also would like to see chrony results both ways.
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I loaded up ten shots for tomorrow and plan on shooting your 11/59 duplex with the Barnes. The wind is supposed to get up tomorrow, but I will try to shoot them first thing in the morning, hopefully it will still be quiet! If it is too windy, I will shoot them at 100 yards.