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Post by spoonover on Mar 8, 2011 22:32:43 GMT -5
45 Pacnor or the like. What would be the best size hole and how long is necessary? What is the danger of forgetting to remove the thing before shooting?
Have seen some that have a funnel shape for powder charging, but that might depend on the crown and bore size hole.
Thanks for any details
Rick
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Post by shooter on Mar 8, 2011 22:48:41 GMT -5
45 Pacnor or the like. What would be the best size hole and how long is necessary? What is the danger of forgetting to remove the thing before shooting? Have seen some that have a funnel shape for powder charging, but that might depend on the crown and bore size hole. Thanks for any details Rick I think Richard can answer this one he has shot his down range a few times. |
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Post by joe21a on Mar 9, 2011 9:02:45 GMT -5
I think the one I use is a Thompson, It stays right on my range rod, So no chance of leaving it in the barrel, that is as long as you don't leave the ram rod in the barrel!!! Several different company make the one like I have ,it is just a small tapered brass washer
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Post by shooter on Mar 9, 2011 10:21:57 GMT -5
I had a friend who buddy shot his ramrod down range lucky no one or anything got hurt.
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Post by Savage Shooter on Mar 9, 2011 10:30:38 GMT -5
I had a friend who buddy shot his ramrod down range lucky no one or anything got hurt. They group a lot better with fletching on them. I prefer vanes. ;D |
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Post by Richard on Mar 9, 2011 17:12:07 GMT -5
Yes, I have shot mine down range a couple of times ;D I poses not problem that I can tell. The bullet and sabot pass right thru it and I believe it is just the trailing gases that propel it. Usually right in line with the target .
Richard
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Post by spoonover on Mar 9, 2011 18:19:04 GMT -5
Just made one I think will work, sabot and bullet is snug. The bore guide is a taper fit to the barrel and also is a tight fit if I twist. I was sure it would be safe just not sure the hole was large enough for the oh sh%#$@% time I leave the thing on.
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Post by Chris Champion on Mar 9, 2011 18:30:19 GMT -5
Yes, I have shot mine down range a couple of times ;D I poses not problem that I can tell. The bullet and sabot pass right thru it and I believe it is just the trailing gases that propel it. Usually right in line with the target . Richard The sabot and bullet pass through the bore guide? |
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Post by Richard on Mar 10, 2011 19:54:16 GMT -5
If the hole is big enough? I also use mine for loading. It guides the sabot and bullet into the bore much like a QLA. I made mine .456" and my land to land is .4505" The bullet struck about 6" low on the target and the bore guide landed about ten feet from the target  Richard |
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Post by cuda on Mar 11, 2011 13:02:48 GMT -5
Richard was that at 100 or 200yds? LOL! Just could not pass it up.
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Post by ET on Mar 11, 2011 13:55:31 GMT -5
Just made one I think will work, sabot and bullet is snug. The bore guide is a taper fit to the barrel and also is a tight fit if I twist. I was sure it would be safe just not sure the hole was large enough for the oh sh%#$@% time I leave the thing on. Spoonover I like your combination of powder funnel and bore guide (false muzzle). At the range I use 3-separate items of powder funnel, false muzzle and a ramrod bore guide. I feel a unification project coming on of powder funnel and false muzzle. Thanks for sharing. Ed |
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Post by Richard on Mar 11, 2011 15:59:53 GMT -5
ET.........actually I do have a powder funnel I made to stick in the end of the guide.
Richard
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Post by ET on Mar 11, 2011 16:29:23 GMT -5
ET.........actually I do have a powder funnel I made to stick in the end of the guide. Richard Then you're one step ahead of me. ;D I do enjoy having a funnel easily directing the powder into the bore with basically no spillage. Combining funnel with false muzzle eliminates a switching operation. Makes life easier for a lazy person like me. Ed |
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Post by Jon on Mar 11, 2011 16:46:16 GMT -5
I don't know how many people have seen Richard Franklins dvd's He makes what looks like a handy tool that works for a powder funnel bullet starter and bore guide?
Jon
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Post by ET on Mar 11, 2011 17:41:43 GMT -5
Richard Couldn’t resist getting it done. ;D Freed a little space in my box from clutter.  Again Thanks Spoonover Ed |
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Post by spoonover on Mar 11, 2011 19:25:05 GMT -5
I just thought of something, ram rod length?
Nice ED.
I did try to knurl the top for a better grip, both files did not go very deep. Time to on Ebay for another lathe tool.
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Post by ET on Mar 11, 2011 20:40:20 GMT -5
Spoonover The false muzzle is just used to get my sabot load about 3” into the bore. After that I use my ramrod guide that fits into the bore to keep the downward force for loading centered. You can see the guide on the right in the first picture.   For this type of guide you need to have an open-end ramrod to slide the guide on and to make it easy on my hands I use a homemade T handle to assist with the loading. No problem with ramrod length and the loading jag ensures the guide does not remain behind when the ramrod is removed. These two items definitely come with me in the field via designated vest pocket. Not trying to takeover your thread but I wanted too mention there are other options. Ed |
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Post by Richard on Mar 11, 2011 21:35:37 GMT -5
I know somebody who is gald they bought a lathe Richard |
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Post by ET on Mar 12, 2011 8:37:29 GMT -5
I know somebody who is gald they bought a lathe Richard For Sure. Now some ideas can be explored instead of just sitting on the drawing board wondering how good they are. Ed |
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