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Post by ratsnakeboogy on Mar 7, 2011 11:57:21 GMT -5
What are y'all using for barrel condoms, and where are you getting them? I want to order some, to help in preventing double loads more than actual weather protection.
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Post by blackpowder on Mar 7, 2011 12:05:30 GMT -5
preventing double loads ...on our practice range the ram rod has to be marked ..so if in doubt all you have to do is insert the rod and it will tell you if the ML is loaded ..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 12:09:16 GMT -5
What are y'all using for barrel condoms, and where are you getting them? I want to order some, to help in preventing double loads more than actual weather protection. Finger Cots at Wal-Mart. Zen |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2011 12:18:25 GMT -5
lots of things will work but on my ramrods if it dissappears in the barrel it is unloaded, if theres rod sticking out somethings down there...Bill
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Post by onecardchuck on Mar 7, 2011 12:30:28 GMT -5
Fingers cut off a latex glove.
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Post by morgan1109 on Mar 7, 2011 13:43:19 GMT -5
Believe it or not, I use the real deal. I get the plain ones with nothing on them, and keep a few in my backpack in case it rains in the field. I don’t have teenage kids, and the wife knows me. There isn’t anything to explain when one shows up in the trash.
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Post by youp50 on Mar 7, 2011 19:28:00 GMT -5
Electrical tape. Use the high dollar Scotch Super 33+. Cold weather tape, won't get brittle at low temps.
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Post by jims on Mar 7, 2011 20:24:34 GMT -5
I use blue masking tape at times for that.
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Post by 12ptdroptine on Mar 7, 2011 21:33:18 GMT -5
never used one on my smokeless.. but used finger cot's from walmart..cheapest way to go
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Post by herman on Mar 8, 2011 5:04:24 GMT -5
Just get a roll of scotch tape from the dollar store.
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Post by ET on Mar 8, 2011 6:37:24 GMT -5
Saran Wrap and Rubber Band works for me.
Ed
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Post by mike.dawson on Mar 8, 2011 7:31:25 GMT -5
orange balloons, bag for 39 cents at walmart
Mike
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Post by rossman40 on Mar 8, 2011 10:37:12 GMT -5
I have been using tape, ether electrical or camo duct tape. I will not go into the field without my muzzle covered anymore. I had a ATV accident which resulted in the barrel getting stuck about 6" in the mud. Without the tape I would have been out of action till I cleaned the bore which would have meant going back to the cabin to get the breechplug wrench and punching the load out.
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Post by craigf on Mar 8, 2011 11:41:33 GMT -5
I remember reading an article in 91, Desert Storm, that the military ordered very many unlubed camo condoms to keep sand out of the barrels.
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Post by ratsnakeboogy on Mar 8, 2011 12:11:23 GMT -5
I have witness marks on my ramrod, I am just getting the wife and kids into muzzleloading and thought if the last step of their loading procedure was to put something over the barrel, there would never be any confusion. Just getting them in the habit. Anything can happen, I just wanted another fail-safe.
Thanks Guys!
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Post by rossman40 on Mar 8, 2011 13:18:43 GMT -5
No problem there! Sounds like a good idea for the newbies.
When I got started I was taught to dry patch and then snap a cap at the start of the range session. I went out shooting with the sons of the guy that taught me, they had a newly built Hawken to try out. We were on the line and I dry patched and then snapped a cap and the one of the other guys, since his rifle was new just kinda one handed snapped a cap. He didn't know his brother loaded it the night before. Tore his hand up pretty good. Get back to their house and the dad lined us up like a bunch of Paris Island recruits and ripped for over a half hour. I'll never forget that lesson....
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Post by ratsnakeboogy on Mar 9, 2011 10:02:47 GMT -5
Man! Hard way to learn.
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Post by Chris Champion on Mar 9, 2011 18:39:37 GMT -5
For in the field I tear the fingers out of the thin latex gloves that come with the shoulder length gutting gloves. I don't use them with the long gutting gloves so they would just get thrown away.
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Post by spoonover on Mar 12, 2011 21:20:12 GMT -5
Ran into a guy at Pass Peak, WY who had black tape over his barrel. We sat looking over the valleys, resting from the climb.
Curiosity got the best of me; how could he shoot with tape over his muzzle, I asked? His reply was go to the range and tape your muzzle one of your shots in a group and see for yourself, I have never seen any effect. From that day on tape has been on the muzzle, with extra wrapped on the objective bell of my gold ring scopes (something of a cool factor for me). Never did go to the range to see if groups would be affected but have shot big game with black tape as a protector.
Back pack hunters, small game is the only protein we get (only carbs are carried in), so the extra black tape is used every day for providing many meals for the pot. Blue grouse is white meat, oh I forget?, have to go back and report back on the meat! Anyway, if black is all a guy has, it works great because it's always on the objective bell.
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Post by gunny on Mar 12, 2011 22:28:01 GMT -5
Never shot with tape on , how does tape react ,a clean hole through or does it just blow off ? gunny
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Post by jims on Mar 12, 2011 22:31:56 GMT -5
For the most part I think the bullet is pushing air ahead of it and that blows the tape off and perhaps the bullet removes any remainder. The only tape I have left is on the barrel itself, not on the crown and that is often just partial pieces. No effect on deer accuracy.
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Post by rossman40 on Mar 13, 2011 23:52:49 GMT -5
I will also wrap/roll tape around the ramrod behind the ramrod ferrel so the ramrod can not come out. I just fold it over on the end to form a tab. To remove the ramrod just pull the tab and you can use some of it to re-tape the muzzle.
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Post by cuda on Mar 14, 2011 14:38:36 GMT -5
I was on the Best Of The West site and they cut and wrapped the stips of tape around the barrel. That way they always had some to cover the muzzle to keep the rain and snow out of the barrel. But I like the idea of putting it on the scope bell. I will have some on the gun before season. I also like the tapeing after you load it as it could save a barrel great idea. Tape will will be on the gun and in my range box. You could put some on your powder tubes too. Sotch tape is cheap insurance anytime of the year.
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Post by Dave1 on Mar 14, 2011 16:18:44 GMT -5
Just curious, has anyone actually tested the theory that a barrel cover/protector does not have any effect on the bullet and accuracy?
Seems that if the bullet comes in contact with any material over the barrel end it would certainly have some effect on the bullet and accuracy.
If the air being compressed ahead of the bullet traveling down the bore does in fact blow the protector completely off and out of the way in the milisecond before the bullet exits the barrel all should be OK. If not and if the bullet contacts any part of the material covering the barrel end, premature bullet expansion and/or deflection could occur.
It may be best to remove the protector before making your shot (if you have time).
Dave
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Post by j1r11 on Mar 14, 2011 17:54:13 GMT -5
Sounds like someone should try shooting a group with it on ;D
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Post by youp50 on Mar 14, 2011 18:21:41 GMT -5
I cross electrical tape over the muzzle and then put a wrap around the circumference of the barrel. ML and center fires alike. Electrical tape leaves little or no tape residue. For my rifles, there is no change in the Point of Impact. I end up with a little round hole in the tape. I do not do it to shotguns, its easy to fish the snow out of a big shotgun barrel.
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Post by deadon on Mar 14, 2011 18:40:45 GMT -5
Sounds like someone should try shooting a group with it on ;D I wore one ,one day this winter, 10 degrees that mornin and I thought it would help me keep warm. Made no difference in groups though  Rusty |
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Post by wilmsmeyer on Mar 14, 2011 20:16:13 GMT -5
This was always something I was skeptical about...but the reports always said it worked. I believe the extreme compression of the air pocket between the bullet and the condom simply explodes the "obstacle" away before the bullet could ever touch it. A perfect solution.
I used one to fire a shot at a target and hit where I should at 100 yds. I believe it was a piece of a baggie over the muzzle wrapped with duct tape around the end of the barrel. In the last 2-3 years I've killed most of my deer with the condom in place. Sometimes a finger of a breeding glove and a rubber band....sometimes a balloon....whatever is in camp. All deer shot at were hit and killed proper.
Great way to prevent barrel obstructions as well as moisture contamination IMO...with no ill affects on accuracy
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Post by j1r11 on Mar 14, 2011 20:16:43 GMT -5
Sounds like someone should try shooting a group with it on ;D I wore one ,one day this winter, 10 degrees that mornin and I thought it would help me keep warm. Made no difference in groups though Rusty I will have to try that sometime  |
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Post by Jon on Mar 14, 2011 21:21:34 GMT -5
Deadon. Try panty hose they do help to keep you warm.
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