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Post by DHinMN on Feb 28, 2011 14:10:18 GMT -5
Every once in a while this is mentioned as something to be done to keep scopes in perfect alignment. I've never heard of this before reading it on this forum. I can't find any good information on how it is done . Once done is the base on the rifle forever? If you use a release agent agent where does it go? I know that I need to be able to take the bases off to put on a peep sight which may be done every year. Anybody have some info on this subject. DH
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Post by jray57 on Feb 28, 2011 15:55:29 GMT -5
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Post by fishhawk on Feb 28, 2011 15:56:16 GMT -5
Bedding bases does nothing for alignment, it is to insure 100% contact between the bases and the action. Bases making full contact are less prone to shift under recoil due to increased friction. Shifting causes poi changes, and weakened/sheared screws. The top of the Savage receiver is finished on a belt sander, making it very irregular causing the poor contact with the base. The bottom of the bases are scuffed with coarse sand paper, the action, screws, and holes in the bases and action are treated with release. Mask off around the bases on the action, and put a thin layer of epoxy on the base bottom. Install but only lightly snug the screws (1/8-1/4 full tightness). Clean up what squeezes out with Q-tips untill as clean as possible. Then with a alcohol dampened Q-tip any epoxy residue left will clean off easily. When cured, remove and lightly bevel the edges of the epoxy, and clean the screws and holes in the bases. Clean the screws and holes in the bases with alcohol, blue loctite the screws, install and torque. Then if you are not using Signature Zee rings, the next step is to lap the rings for perfact alignment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2011 16:55:52 GMT -5
If you use a farrell base and install (bed correctly) there is no need to lap, at least on the two I have done so far. will find out on the remingtons as they will wear Farrells as well.
as far as alignment goes, the savages I have checked with a good straight edge have been out considerably. as fishhawk was saying the key to bedding bases is not to torque the screws and pull the base in whatever direction the action is out. with bedding if the base is flat then when the bedding dries under the base it will have a full contact flat surface to sit on stress free..
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Post by Richard on Feb 28, 2011 19:12:44 GMT -5
The bedding as fishawk describes is good and I have used this method a number of times. An alternative is to use brass shim stock. Most all industrial supply houses stock it in increments of .001" on up to probably .010"? I have .001 thru .005". It will accomplish the same thing as the bedding.
Richard
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Post by fishhawk on Feb 28, 2011 22:23:56 GMT -5
One piece bases on most Savages make the most contact near the port, and less or none at the ends. You can test this by snugging down a screw at either end and the other end will lift up. If this is the case, when bedding put the light pressure only on the inner screws and take only the slack out of the outer ones to keep epoxy from squeezing up through the screw holes.
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Post by DHinMN on Feb 28, 2011 23:22:26 GMT -5
Thanks to all for the replys. I checked out the Sniper Central website and will check things out as they suggested. I have a Warne pic. rail one piece base with Warne rings. I may switch to the Burris rings as suggested. I need another set of rings anyway. I like the sound of the brass shims if that will work or otherwise will try the bedding. I have bedded actions but bedding bases, I have never heard of. I'm expecting to find a problem. I maybe back with more questions. DH
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Post by DHinMN on Mar 7, 2011 16:11:38 GMT -5
I finally got around to checking out the base on the Savage. Read over the info from Sniper Central with pictures and fishawk's explanation a couple times. This is what I found the way I see it. As I have a one piece base, the front is where there is a gap closest to the recoil lug. So I'm just going to glass bed the front section of the base. Pretty much follow the directions and pictures from Sniper Central. That was a good bit of information with pictures. I have on hand some accra-glass gel that I will use. Will probably do it tomorrow after gun is warmed up and release agent dry. DH
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Post by fishhawk on Mar 7, 2011 22:31:04 GMT -5
DH, with a 1-piece base the need for the Signature Zees in greatly reduced. They are still great because they won't mark-up the scope tube. You found the low spot on the action that is on most Savages. The fact is, by spec the recoil lugs are not supposed to stick up above the action. It's the jackarss that likes to lean against the belt sander that screws this all up.
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