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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 16:34:22 GMT -5
Recently I picked up a 3200 Bushnell Elite that was on sale at Midways. I decided to put it on my Savage ML .50. Before I changed it out it had a Nikon Bushmaster on it with Weaver Grandslam mounts and rings. I had no problem with that setup with windage adjustment. It took very little adjustment from when the crosshairs on the Nikon were centered to get it on. [within 15 clicks]. I took the rings apart and dropped the new Bushnell in and re-tightened them, a simple proceedure. The problem I encountered is that I had to run the Bushnell windage adjustment all the way to the right to get it right [85 clicks]. Nothing was changed with the mounts or rings. Why the big difference between the two scopes? If the mounts and rings are lined up close for Nikon scope why woundn't it be so for the Bushnell. I don't like the idea that the scope has to be adjusted all the way to the end to get the windage right. The elevation adjustment was fine. It only took a few clicks to get it right......Is the scope messed up out of the box or what?.....Give me some ideas please  Thanks, Zen |
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Post by nsb on Jan 17, 2011 17:00:46 GMT -5
First of all, you just bought a really good scope. Your problem isn't the scope, it's the Weaver Grand Slam mounts. I tried a set on my ML2 and they ended up in the garbage. They are difficult to set up under the best of circumstances and impossible under the worst. Do yourself a favor and get a set of Warne rings and bases. I have found over the years that any rings I have ever tried with adjustable windage were problematic. Your best bet if you are having trouble adjusting windage on rings such as Warne, is to lap the rings and "true" them up. Midway sells a set of tools for doing this that is pretty reasonably priced and can be used over and over again on all your rings and scopes. This is a much better option than trying to adjust the scope by adjusting the mounts. Very seldom are the rings and scope in true alignment. Lapping the rings will bring everything to center. I've never seen a Savage drilled and tapped for scope mounts that was off to such a degree that adjustable rings were needed to correct the problem. Hopefully, some other more knowledgable shooters will chime in and do a better job of explaining what I'm trying to convey.
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Post by rossman40 on Jan 17, 2011 17:07:10 GMT -5
Did you take the rings off the mounts? Or did you just take the ring caps off and drop in the new scope?
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Post by shivesy on Jan 17, 2011 18:04:42 GMT -5
If you just took the top half of the ring caps off and installed this new scope then I think I would have a problem with that situation also. I'd tell Midway the one they sent is defective, send me another.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 18:10:21 GMT -5
Did you take the rings off the mounts? Or did you just take the ring caps off and drop in the new scope? I just took the ring caps off and dropped in the new scope. I've had good results with the Weaver Grandslams on this particular Savage and two others in the past. I did change the barrel since I shot it last with the old scope. I took off the original factory stainless with a QLA and replaced it with another factory stainless off a Savage accutrigger model. I don't see that being a problem. I always figured you could change these barrels around without a problem. Thanks Zen |
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Post by shivesy on Jan 17, 2011 18:39:34 GMT -5
I just took the ring caps off and dropped in the new scope. I've had good results with the Weaver Grandslams on this particular Savage and two others in the past. I did change the barrel since I shot it last with the old scope. I took off the original factory stainless with a QLA and replaced it with another factory stainless off a Savage accutrigger model. I don't see that being a problem. I always figured you could change these barrels around without a problem. Thanks Zen Now that you just added another paragraph to the story and a possibility that something else could be the problem, let me take back what I just wrote. (if possible) Put that Nikon back on and see where it shoots. If the Nikon is still on zero then talk to Midway about replacing the Bushnell with another one. If your Nikon is way off then maybe another problem is present other than the scope. |
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Post by j1r11 on Jan 17, 2011 18:57:59 GMT -5
Your scope may have not been optically centered from the factory (although it should of been). Bottom out your windage any way until your turett stops (do not force), then count how many clicks back it takes you to bottom out the opposite direction.
Now, divide that number in 2 and count back half way. Now you windage is "optically centered". You can do this for elevation also, although it sounds like just the windage is the problem.
Another option is to lap your rings.
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Post by joe21a on Jan 17, 2011 19:14:12 GMT -5
I would try putting the Nikon back on the rifle and see how it shoots with the new barrel.Then you may have a better idea what direction to move.
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Post by deadon on Jan 17, 2011 19:27:24 GMT -5
I would just like to reiterate what I have heard a thousand times here and other places. "Change one thing at a time" I need to hear it said often, Rusty
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2011 20:57:43 GMT -5
I would try putting the Nikon back on the rifle and see how it shoots with the new barrel.Then you may have a better idea what direction to move. I think that will be my first move Thanks, Zen |
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Post by rossman40 on Jan 17, 2011 23:18:07 GMT -5
When I swapped barrels on mine and had to dial in about 40 clicks of left windage.
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