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Post by adk on Dec 17, 2010 12:01:13 GMT -5
Hello all,
I'm looking for an in-line for my son-in-law for Christmas and need some advice. Is there a decent in-line for under $400.00 or should I be looking to spend more $$$. If so what would you recomend in my price range and why? Thanks.
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Post by rangeball on Dec 17, 2010 12:12:37 GMT -5
The CVA accura V1 thumbhole stock close out continues to be a heck of a deal on a very accurate rifle.
I think Cabelas still has them available.
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Post by petev on Dec 17, 2010 12:49:11 GMT -5
The T/C Omega is a proven shooter. I bought one from Cabelas about a month ago on sale for $325, but recently I got a flier that the price had been dropped to $275. You can't go wrong there, IMO. Peter
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Post by GMB54-120 on Dec 17, 2010 13:36:53 GMT -5
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Post by rangeball on Dec 17, 2010 14:38:36 GMT -5
That is one sweet looking rifle... Can I be your son-in-law?  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2010 17:07:54 GMT -5
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Post by mountainam on Dec 17, 2010 17:38:45 GMT -5
Or get a Knight Vision from Sportsman's guide for $199 and don't have to bother with COCKING a hammer. They handle BH209 without problems and shoot a 265gr .430" FTX bullet superbly right out of the box with hole touching accuracy .
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2010 18:11:50 GMT -5
I did not know cocking a hammer was so hard.
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Post by GMB54-120 on Dec 17, 2010 18:13:33 GMT -5
I did not know cocking a hammer was so hard. I didnt know he missed my post about the Vision and i even included the link. ;D He just likes to take a jab every chance he gets. |
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Post by mountainam on Dec 17, 2010 18:38:23 GMT -5
45, It's not hard but it's not as fast as a Remington 870 style safety. Our 2nd season is this weekend and may be in the single digits. Then that's the test to see the level of difficulty. I'm sure it's more costly to MFR a hammerless action versus an exposed hammer but somehow you get to pay more for an antiquated design. Sorry, I just don't see the logic. It's certainly O.K. if you do though.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2010 20:14:58 GMT -5
I like my Accura V2.  |
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Post by GMB54-120 on Dec 18, 2010 15:14:26 GMT -5
I would have recommended that one also but not everyone likes the 45cals. Personally i REALLY like them except for the Omega synth stock needs a little work sometimes. The laminates seem pretty solid. I was getting one but i found a new SUPER DISC to play with instead. My Accura 45 was a tack driver with upto 110grs and a 200gr SST but due to primer flow i never went higher. ATM the Vision in SS is a great value for $220 and with Knight finally getting back into full swing, it should be a lifetime quality gun. Rumor is that they may even offer an improved version before 2012. The main problem is the OP is getting one as a gift, so it may not fit the person that gets it. Guns are a "personal" thing and even the best gun may not be the best for everyone. I would say take out the son-in-law and let him shoulder a few and choose what he likes and make sure his choice is an educated one. |
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Post by adk on Dec 18, 2010 19:09:23 GMT -5
Thanks to all for the tips and advice. I was checking at a couple of the local gun shops today but not much inventory sitting around. It's sure not like it use to be. I guess the dealers can't afford to have them sitting on the rack till next year?
I hunted for years with a TC Hawken in .50 cal.. Didn't ever consider a .45 because of the opportunities for a bear in the Adirondacks. I'm wondering about a .45 though, since my son-in-law doesn't hunt the Dacks. Is there any reason a .45 is a bad choice for deer only?
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Post by GMB54-120 on Dec 18, 2010 19:33:26 GMT -5
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Considering the newer 40cal bullets for 45x40 sabots....a 45cal inline is just fine for deer. My friend just took a nice doe at 197 yards with an Elite 45 DRT and the new Lehigh bullet. Some state regs require a minimum of 50cal during the ML season so i didn't recommend it in the beginning.
The Omegas can push 200gr bullets easily into the 2200fps range and usually do it very accurately too. That load still has enough fpe to cleanly harvest a deer to 200 yards without any issues. My friends doe didn't even go 20 yards after being shot.
My buddy used my old Accura 45 this year and killed a doe at 150 yards plus. The 186gr bullet went through the upper shoulder area and spine with ease...again DRT. I can post the pic if you wish...its a bit graphic.
Currently the Omega is probably the best 45cal ML still available new and $300 is a steal for a NIB stainless.
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Post by urbanredneck on Dec 18, 2010 19:46:44 GMT -5
The T/C Triumph and Omega are BH209 ready out of the box and both are great shooters. The best reason for a .50 over a .45 is bullet selection.
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Post by petev on Dec 18, 2010 22:17:26 GMT -5
NY allows 45 cal. A friend of mine has had an Omega 45 cal, and killed a number of deer with it. A couple over 100 yards.
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Post by moto357 on Dec 19, 2010 0:44:47 GMT -5
where in the adk's are you? what shops have you looked in? have you narrowed your search after seeing what the guys posted?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2010 2:34:12 GMT -5
I must say I have a .45 because I already have a few .50's. I prefer the .45 now. Seems to have less recoil and both the Barnes 195gr MZ and 200gr Hornady SST's shoot great with the same POI.
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Post by adk on Dec 19, 2010 7:03:06 GMT -5
where in the adk's are you? what shops have you looked in? have you narrowed your search after seeing what the guys posted? I've only checked at a couple of small local shops.One is in the guys garage  .I have to drive to Plattsburgh this week so I'll take a look in Gander Mnt.. Based on what the guys had to say here and some of the research online I'm leaning toward a TC Omega.I've always been impressed with the quality that goes into a TC and they are made in the good ole U.S.A.(I think?). One problem.I started out looking for one BP rifle as a gift and now I'm thinking about buying two!The last thing a decrepit old fart like me needs is another rifle.Oh well,I guess it's not really a problem;D. |
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Post by moto357 on Dec 19, 2010 11:45:29 GMT -5
i was in the plattsburg gander mt a couple days ago, every once in a while i've been able to sneek out of there with a deal. two other places to try in the plattsburg area is Vann's Gun shop and also Old Lantern. Old Lantern is a smaller shop, but strickly BP and muzzleloading stuff.. some older sidelocks and flinchlocks but also some inlines you might be able to find something there! Good luck
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Post by GMB54-120 on Dec 19, 2010 11:45:44 GMT -5
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Yep, they are still Made in USA. Some of their accessories are imported. The big plus with an Omega is that it is very BH209 powder friendly. The worst draw back is you cant mount a hammer extension because of the drop action.
Even though i prefer my Knights, i cant find many faults with the Omegas. I also prefer to shoot a 45 even though i have all kinds of calibers. I prefer to hunt with my 54 carbine mostly but at the range the beating gets old fast.
The 45s are a pleasure to shoot by comparison and the more often you shoot, the better you know your gun and shot placement.
In sabots there are only 3 45x40 choices. MMP/Hornady tan and two from Harvester. Most range bullets are pretty cheap at $21-24 per 100 instead of per 50. Highend hunting bullet options are a bit more limited but very effective.
Barnes, Lehigh DOA and Hornady 200gr SSTs are the most popular bullets for hunting. 200gr XTPs or 180gr GoldDots will get the job done with good shot placement if you don't want "specialty" bullets.
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Post by zakjak221 on Dec 19, 2010 15:51:20 GMT -5
T/C Omega .50 cal is tuff to beat.
Accurate,dependable,easy to clean/maintain & likes many different loads.
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Post by nic58 on Dec 19, 2010 16:56:07 GMT -5
Either one of the Omegas posted earlier should be a no brainer. That is pretty much a steal on both of them. The .50 SS Laminate would be the better of the two because of bullet/sabot selection IMO. That being said, the .45 SS composite would be hard to pass up for just $300 too. You couldn't go wrong with either one.
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.I have to drive to Plattsburgh this week so I'll take a look in Gander Mnt.. Based on what the guys had to say here and some of the research online I'm leaning toward a TC Omega.I've always been impressed with the quality that goes into a TC and they are made in the good ole U.S.A.(I think?).