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Oct 10, 2010 19:10:06 GMT -5
Post by tdillinger on Oct 10, 2010 19:10:06 GMT -5
Ok so lets talk some optics and I am not worried about clarity, brightness, etc. we all know what makes a good scope and we all have our desires. What I want to know is what power and objective one is using to shoot beyond 200 yds, 300 yds, and etc. thanks for the input.
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Oct 10, 2010 19:19:02 GMT -5
Post by Dave W on Oct 10, 2010 19:19:02 GMT -5
6.5-20x40 Leupold VX III with fine crosshairs on the .50.
6.5-20x50 SII BS with a dot reticle on the .45.
Hunt with the SII BS on the .45 and switch to a Elite 4200 4-16x50 on the .50 for hunting.
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Oct 10, 2010 19:26:21 GMT -5
Post by dougedwards on Oct 10, 2010 19:26:21 GMT -5
If you go by what those experts over at Opticstalk say you won't need anymore than 9x to shoot out to 300 yards but I can't see it. I want 16x for those 300 yard shots and no less than 12x for 200 yarders. I shoot at one inch dots and never want the cross hairs to cover the dot completely while aiming. As always just my humble opinion.
Doug
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Oct 10, 2010 20:39:11 GMT -5
Post by Tarheel on Oct 10, 2010 20:39:11 GMT -5
It depends on whether you're deer hunting or target shooting at longer distances. I've found that 9x is OK for deer hunting, but you may want more magnification if you're going to shoot targets.
Burris Fullfield II 3x9x50mm with ballistic plex Nikon Buckmaster 3x9x40mm
You may notice I don't have any scopes with higher than 9x magnification, but I mainly hunt deer and don't spend much time at the range.
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Oct 10, 2010 21:02:39 GMT -5
Post by tdillinger on Oct 10, 2010 21:02:39 GMT -5
It depends on whether you're deer hunting or target shooting at longer distances. I've found that 9x is OK for deer hunting, but you may want more magnification if you're going to shoot targets. Burris Fullfield II 3x9x50mm with ballistic plex Nikon Buckmaster 3x9x40mm You may notice I don't have any scopes with higher than 9x magnification, but I mainly hunt deer and don't spend much time at the range. I should clarify, i meant target ahooting, Hunting is a pesonaly prference a 3x9 or so is great but shooting MOA at 200 0r 300 yds etc is a differnt fiels.
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Oct 10, 2010 21:33:07 GMT -5
Post by sw on Oct 10, 2010 21:33:07 GMT -5
I work my loads up with a Weaver T-36, hunt with WCE(2.5X10).
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Oct 10, 2010 21:38:41 GMT -5
Post by tdillinger on Oct 10, 2010 21:38:41 GMT -5
I work my loads up with a Weaver T-36, hunt with WCE(2.5X10). Just curious how is the Weaver quality these days?
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Oct 10, 2010 23:04:12 GMT -5
Post by zakjak221 on Oct 10, 2010 23:04:12 GMT -5
I also have a Burris Fullfield II---good scope for the $. Leupold VX II and my personal favorite of mine is the Bushnell Elite 4200 4x16-50 mm. For target at longer ranges,I'd go with the 50mm scopes and the turret adjustable windage/elevation. The Zeiss conquest is a real nice scope, but will set you back $900 plus. My two cents.
Mark
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Oct 11, 2010 8:32:55 GMT -5
Post by chuck41 on Oct 11, 2010 8:32:55 GMT -5
I use a Burris Fullfield 3-9x40 and find it quite acceptable for hunting. It has a clear sight picture and has held up well to my heavy recoiling ML-10. I would highly recommend it although I would prefer the 50mm version for a bit more visibility in low light conditions. Also have a A-1 Optics 3-12x50 that I loved. It had a brighter sight picture than any other scope I have used and the 12x power was very useful to identify sex and quality of deer, especially at early morning and late evening. Unfortunately it couldn't withstand the recoil and became erratic after a couple of seasons. Glad to see this thread because it reminded me that I still haven't sent that scope back for warranty repair. Dug it out and put it in a package and will mail it off tomorrow. I can use it on my 7mm-08 that don't kick so hard.
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Oct 11, 2010 9:42:13 GMT -5
Post by sagittarius on Oct 11, 2010 9:42:13 GMT -5
I use a Burris 30mm 3-12x XTR Tactical with 50mm objective on my MLII the past two years and it has worked out great so far. Knock on wood !
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Oct 11, 2010 12:06:26 GMT -5
Post by rossman40 on Oct 11, 2010 12:06:26 GMT -5
If you have better glass you do not need the magnification as bad. I find myself of the WCE just boosting the power up to 4 or 5X for deer out to 200yds. Enough to insure the shot placement but still able to see around the target. For 300yd paper punching I would go to 16 or 20X, above 20X sometimes mirage makes the extra magnification useless.
Weaver has quietly been pumping the quality up for years and I would have to give a thumbs up to them. I love my WCE and IMO it was a mistake to drop the line but it gave the deal of the century to a lot of us cheapskates.
The Nitrex TR2 with the EBX is another buy on closeout. The 4-20X50 with the EBX reticle for $289 after rebate gets a pretty good "BUY" rating from me.
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Oct 11, 2010 16:42:09 GMT -5
Post by tdillinger on Oct 11, 2010 16:42:09 GMT -5
Thanks to all for the input. I myself use Burris Signature select. I have never tried Long distance shots which to me is beyond 200 yds. So the largest scope I have is a 4x16 44. Probaly over kill since i have never shot anything past 75 yds . Come to think of it the longest kill shot was with my 11-87 at 200 yds With a Burris Short Mag 3x9 32. Anyway thanks..
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Oct 11, 2010 19:36:49 GMT -5
Post by chuck41 on Oct 11, 2010 19:36:49 GMT -5
If you have better glass you do not need the magnification as bad. I find myself of the WCE just boosting the power up to 4 or 5X for deer out to 200yds. Enough to insure the shot placement but still able to see around the target. For 300yd paper punching I would go to 16 or 20X, above 20X sometimes mirage makes the extra magnification useless. Weaver has quietly been pumping the quality up for years and I would have to give a thumbs up to them. I love my WCE and IMO it was a mistake to drop the line but it gave the deal of the century to a lot of us cheapskates. The Nitrex TR2 with the EBX is another buy on closeout. The 4-20X50 with the EBX reticle for $289 after rebate gets a pretty good "BUY" rating from me. At my age I need as much help as possible. Here we have a limit of 5 deer with no more than 2 bucks per year. A button buck counts as a buck and so I need to look closely to make absolutely sure. Shoot from a high stand and they seldom lie on their back and spread their legs for me to see. Can't always be absolutely sure how big they are and don't want to shoot a button when I think it is a medium size doe like my wife prefers for venison. In deep woods where shadows prevail and most shots come at dawn and just at dark the 12x with 50mm lens is a big advantage over the 9x with 40mm to me. That Nitrex TR2 sounds like a pretty good deal.
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Oct 11, 2010 20:45:35 GMT -5
Post by craigf on Oct 11, 2010 20:45:35 GMT -5
For just paper punching, I have been very please with a Sightron SII Big Sky 6.5-20 x 50. I have a Zeiss in the same size and I cannot really tell a difference between the two in terms of glass. Rossman, what do you think of the Sightrons these days, since you have the inside scoop on all things fun?
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Oct 11, 2010 21:34:22 GMT -5
Post by rossman40 on Oct 11, 2010 21:34:22 GMT -5
Sightron has always been a decent scope, at least the SIIs and SIIIs. We call the Big Skys S2.5s, if they would have went with 30MM tubes they might sold even more. The SIIIs could have swept the benchrest crowd if they had a better reticle 10 years ago, some of the best glass coming out of Japan. It kind forced Nightforce to step up to better lenses. I think Sightron is feeling the pressure of Vortex and the newer SIII models like the 10-50x60 is pretty awesome. The warranty has changed from the "over the counter exchange" to send back to Sightron. Prices are a bit up. Now I'm waiting to see some models like 3-15X50 or 4-20X50 in the line up. A 5X scope like a 4-20x50 may be my next purchase, high enough magnification for bench use and still goes pretty low for hunting and besides, like many others my eyes are not getting younger. I would jump on the TR2 if it had a 30mm tube and illuminated reticle. Weaver has one in the Super Slam Euro but $700.
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Oct 11, 2010 21:50:47 GMT -5
Post by tdillinger on Oct 11, 2010 21:50:47 GMT -5
a new post
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Oct 11, 2010 22:03:17 GMT -5
Post by sw on Oct 11, 2010 22:03:17 GMT -5
I work my loads up with a Weaver T-36, hunt with WCE(2.5X10). Just curious how is the Weaver quality these days? This scope is >10 years old and 1,000s of shots(mostly 6PPC). The WCEs seem excellent to me. Wish almost all of my scopes are WCEs. I hunt deer/bear/turkey with my x-bow and 40/45 MLers. 1 on each MLer and x-bow.
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Oct 14, 2010 15:11:10 GMT -5
Post by edge on Oct 14, 2010 15:11:10 GMT -5
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Oct 14, 2010 19:17:19 GMT -5
Post by jeremylong on Oct 14, 2010 19:17:19 GMT -5
4-12x vx II works well for me. I will say the Vortex scopes have my attention though and would have to look at them if purchasing a new one. It seems like they get some pretty good reviews too. I looked through a middle of the road one and it was really clear. I dont remember the model.
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Oct 14, 2010 20:33:51 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2010 20:33:51 GMT -5
trying the new Burris six X in 2-12x50, so far its good but for how long?
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