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[broomebuck]

[joe21a]

That look like fun, but real long. NY does not have x-Bow hunting, we can only dream

[sw]

The Stryker(405'/sec/425g bolt) and the PSE (412'/sec/485g bolt) have set new heights for x-bows. Unfortunately, they are so big, and expensive. Still, they seem to be the "beanfield x-bows". They will be just what some people can use.

[edge]

The prices seem ridiculous, but for now if you want that speed you will pay the price. I suspect that if their sales are any good that everyone will jump on the longer power stroke band wagon and the prices should drop.
Funny how competition has a way of doing that...all with no Government help

edge.

[sw]

The PSE's stated accuracy certainly is excellent by anyone's standards. I have not shot groups with any Bowteck x-bow but think it would be hard for any x-bow to equal the PSE.
The Stryker and PSE are definitely on the edge of x-bow performance. To get this, size and wt are seriously compromised from a user's standpoint. Using this in a treestand or toting it miles on a hunt might get old quickly. Also, usage in an enclosed blind would be difficult. Still, they would be great where their size wouldn't affect their usage. For hunting usage out of stands and blinds be sure to consider size, primarily width. The recurve x-bows are generally wide but light and very pleasant to use. They generally will not shoot the heavier(425g or above) bolt at higher speeds(Excalibre's speed quotes are with 350g bolts - this is lite and does not lend to longer range shooting, ie >50 yds). The Swiss Twinbow 2 is on the other end of the spectrum: it is tiny yet has moderate performance. It is very accurate, moderate noise, extremely easy to use,etc, but will have considerable down time if and when it breaks. Bowteck,Parker, 10-Pt, and Excalibre seem to me to be the best of the x-bows. Each has it's own strengths and weaknesses. If all shots were 50 yds or less, and size, width-wise, isn't a major problem, I like the top of the line Excalibres. For over 50 yds, the other 3 seem to excell. For over 70 yds, the first 2. These are just my thoughts, but I have a fair degree of experience with all these except the Bowteck. These are just one person's thoughts.

[killahog]

I would really like to see one of those firsthand. I have killed more deer with a crossbow than I can count but the thing that they failed to mention is the bolt is still slower than the speed of sound and most of the deer past 30 yards will have such a reaction to the sound that the deer is going to be in motion before that arrow gets there. I have my compound bow sighted in 1" low and i still manage to hit 1 or 2 inches high.

[sw]

I don't think the new PSE offering will do the x-bow cause any good. I don't doubt it's ability but the effect it has on state agencies that are debating on whether to allow x-bows may well have a negative response after becoming familiar with this x-bow. I recently read on a x-bow forum that this very offering was the reason for the 350'/sec limit in MI. Rambo could likely shoot down a few Hinds with one of these.

[woodywilliams]

Does anyone know of anyone that actually owns one?

All I have seen is the ONE at the shows.

The video accuracy is all hype.

The founder, owner and chief engineer said that the bow "might" be capable of one hole shooting at 50 yards IF the bow is locked in a vise and shot indoors where there is no wind.

Quite a few other crossbows will do that too. So will vertical bows IF they are shot in a shooting machine.

[boarhog]

I have an old PSE Starfire. I am sure it is far less advanced than the new stuff, and only 125 lb rated. Still, it will shoot a standard bolt completely through deer or hogs when shot at a reasonable distance. IMO something less than 40 yds. I most often use the old style Bear Razorhead broadhead without the razor insert. I realize it is heavier than the new models and probably shoots slower, but it will really penetrate! This bow is accurate enough that you will need to aim slightly away from your first bolt to keep from damaging it.

My Son has a Horton 150 lb X bow, a Legend I think. It wasn't too expensive. Somewhere around $300.00 for the outfit with red dot scope. It is much handier than my PSE, but the main plus to me, is that the bolt slides under a spring clip that holds it in place. My PSE only has a rest and you must be careful to make certain the bolt hasn't fallen off of the rest.

I would never pay the prices I see listed for the models today! Same goes for the new verticle compounds. $800.00 and up is frightening! I'll just stick to my old PSE X Bow and Pearson Z-Bow compound!