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Post by deadon on Sept 22, 2010 14:50:57 GMT -5
what is the quickest way to determine if a barrel likes clean or fouled. I am talking about a 45 pacnor but the quick test could be used on any rifle. I know that my 243 likes a fouled barrel due to many ,many experiments but don't have the time or money before ML season to shoot hundreds of times. I am starting with H 4198 and 200 gr sst. Any advice will be great, Thanks Rusty.
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Post by mike3132 on Sept 22, 2010 16:09:36 GMT -5
Unless you are shooting paper targets at long distances I don't think it will make much difference, a deer has a 16" kill zone. I would foul the gun, dry swab the barrel like you would in hunting conditions and set my scope to that POI. When in the field I would repeat the process. A foul bore vs. a clean bore is usually not much difference in POI. Mike
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Post by rangeball on Sept 22, 2010 16:14:15 GMT -5
For me it was as simple as having an aversion to swabbing between every shot and hoping it would shoot well fouled, so I started with no swabbing, and was very happy that the resulting groups were tight enough for me  |
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Post by tick on Sept 22, 2010 17:00:40 GMT -5
I started with a clean bore. Did the shooting and swabbing to start with and after seeing my groups, let the barrel become fouled without cleaning at all. I saw the groups get better as the barrel fouled.
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Post by deadon on Sept 22, 2010 19:08:25 GMT -5
I started with a clean bore. Did the shooting and swabbing to start with and after seeing my groups, let the barrel become fouled without cleaning at all. I saw the groups get better as the barrel fouled. Tick,was that with the same load that your groups tightened up when the barrel got fouled? Thanks Rusty |
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Post by tick on Sept 22, 2010 19:13:50 GMT -5
Yeah, same loads exactly. I started cleaning between shots and after getting my groups, I let it get fouled. MY groups started tightening as the barrel fouled. You may not get the same results but it worked for me.
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Post by lwh723 on Sept 22, 2010 19:16:12 GMT -5
For me it was as simple as having an aversion to swabbing between every shot and hoping it would shoot well fouled, so I started with no swabbing, and was very happy that the resulting groups were tight enough for me Exactly! I bought a Savage so I wouldn't have to clean. Swabbing/cleaning after every shot wasn't even a consideration for me. I clean at the end of the season, that's it. Maybe I could get better accuracy if I swabbed after every shot, but I'll never know!  |
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Post by bigmoose on Sept 22, 2010 19:19:01 GMT -5
One last time, I pop a primer, and start shooting, and most times the first shot is the best of the group, many times my first shot hit the 1/2" in dot in the center of the bulleye.
But thats me, I read many, many posts that say, to get a good group, you must fire a fouling shot, by the way, its the same with both my .45 and 50, with heavy loads my groups with the .50 [350 and 400gr bullets] are not as good as the .45, which is super accurate.
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Post by deadon on Sept 22, 2010 19:24:09 GMT -5
Bigmoose, One more time please. You pop a cap on a clean barrel to foul it ,then swab the barrel and pop another cap. That is the way I have shot BP MLs for years. Thanks for the help, Rusty
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Post by dans on Sept 22, 2010 22:19:58 GMT -5
When shooting targets I dry swab between shots. When hunting I don't swab at all. During the hunting season I may never swab until its over. Last season I fired 3 shots so not much need of swabbing.
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Post by Richard on Sept 23, 2010 11:31:06 GMT -5
Deadon.............Just try it both ways and see for yourself which works best?  Richard |
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Post by bigmoose on Sept 23, 2010 11:34:14 GMT -5
Richards, advice says it all.
Good Luck
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Post by deadon on Sept 24, 2010 12:23:45 GMT -5
Richards, advice says it all. Good Luck BM, Tanks a rot , Rusty |
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