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Post by edge on Aug 30, 2010 17:13:14 GMT -5
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Post by onecardchuck on Aug 31, 2010 7:57:04 GMT -5
Just remember there are many Savages out there that are loose and you will have to knurl up, or teflon tape or whatever to get proper fit and centering, which in turn will affect accuracy. For instance my barrel is a .503 stainless. I am sure the closer your barrel is to .500 in size the better the results you will get as seen on the thread by frontiergander.
Also do not forget accuracy drops off if you try to over charge with smokeless powder. What I mean is more than 42 to 43 grains of N110 is the limit with these.
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Post by edge on Aug 31, 2010 8:21:45 GMT -5
If accuracy falls off then N110 may not be the best powder choice. Many folks can't shoot more than that with sabots either.
edge.
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Post by dennisr on Aug 31, 2010 9:21:29 GMT -5
Forgive me if this has been discussed already.
I can see a nice advantage to using these Thor's in that barrel heat weakening a sabot becomes a non-issue.
But is this advantage outweighed by the disadvantage of copper fouling?
For areas where saboted projectiles are not allowed, this makes a lot of sense. But for areas where saboted projectiles are allowed, is this a good choice in the opinions of our resident experts?
Dennis
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Post by rangeball on Aug 31, 2010 9:26:25 GMT -5
They were for me. My situation was I wanted to shoot the barnes but couldn't get what I wanted with sabots and N110. The thor .500 250gr shoots great from my SMI douglas barrel over 42gr of N110. I've noted not copper fouling, but would expect it to be less than shooting a full bore copper or copper jacketed bullet from a cartridge.
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Post by onecardchuck on Aug 31, 2010 10:17:15 GMT -5
Few more comments,
edge, I shot N110 up to 44 grains and N120 up to 63 grains and the maker of THOR bullets uses a max of 43 grains of 4759. I now know why he stopped there. You are right that this is probably a max load for 90 percent of the board, but for the other 10 percent that have a need for speed this would not be the bullet for them. I think what happens is you eventually reach the max the skirt can handle before ripping.
dennisr, I had no real copper fouling problems that I could not get out with a good bore cleaner.
rangeball, Is an entirely different beast because he has an SMI barrel that measures .500 on the lands and I am not the least bit surprised this bullet shoots well for him and he likes the results.
Just sharing my experience with this bullet so all can make an informed choice.
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Post by deerhunter on Sept 6, 2010 8:42:49 GMT -5
Where can you buy this thor bullet?I wood like to try it. Is this bullet hollow in the back like the hornady FPB ? deerhunter
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Post by bigmoose on Sept 6, 2010 9:10:03 GMT -5
The bullet I use sabotless is the Barnes TMZ, after shooting many bullets in the three years, Ive had my RB .45, it is safe to say, cooper fouling is not an issue. I have yet to use my rifle with sabots, although I have sabots and bullets for it, I don't want to change the zero. Anyone who is thinking of shooting sabotless with an all cooper bullet, I highly recommend the flat based 290gr.TMZ, the boattail is accurate, but the FB is super accurate, 53grs of H4198, wonder wad and your ready, mild recoil.
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Post by onecardchuck on Sept 6, 2010 9:48:43 GMT -5
deerhunter, Yes the THOR is hollow in the back like the FPB, but much tougher and can handle the pressure of smokeless. You can only buy them on line at: thorbullets.com
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Post by rangeball on Sept 7, 2010 9:18:10 GMT -5
The bullet I use sabotless is the Barnes TMZ, after shooting many bullets in the three years, Ive had my RB .45, it is safe to say, cooper fouling is not an issue. I have yet to use my rifle with sabots, although I have sabots and bullets for it, I don't want to change the zero. Anyone who is thinking of shooting sabotless with an all cooper bullet, I highly recommend the flat based 290gr.TMZ, the boattail is accurate, but the FB is super accurate, 53grs of H4198, wonder wad and your ready, mild recoil. Moose, did you ever do similar testing with the 250gr barnes? Was accuracy as good?
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