CVA Accura

[ambush]

I am going to build a smokless but thought I would share how acurate my CVA is. At 100 yards I can print 3/8 center to center groups, shooting hornay sst 250 grain infront of 100 grains american pioner loose. Only disapointment is that I think them bullets suck for hunting. I got zero expantion. Plus no blood trail. Shot a buck with it at 50 yards last year from tree stand thought I made a great shot and it stoped and was going to fall at 80 yards. Then walked off. Shot was broadside. Well I seen him bed in a thicket so I got down and looked for blood just a couple drops then nothing. So I sneaked to his possition he stood and I put one through both shoulders at 20 yards but stoping at the skin. It pretty much just bent the tip. First shot right where needed to be but exit was bacl almost to the guts. Got part of a lung and liver. Looks like it bounced off a rib. We got the first shot on film so I know he was broadside. Gun shoots but bullets very poor.

[10ga]

Sounds like you don't have enough velocity. Broadside at 20 yd, even through the shoulders, bullet should exit, bullet should have exited even on the 50 yard shot!! The AP is notoriously erratic, undependable, and least favored of any BP or substitute powder, for good reason as you have illustrated. If it has any age on it, it's lost it's OOmph. Try Trip7, Pyrodex, real black powder or the Blackhorn and you'll probably get real velocity and proper bullet performance. If you have a chance try that same can of powder with those same bullets through a chrono- you're probably getting less than 1000 fps. at muzzle. You'd just as well use a .45 ACP to duplicate that bullet performance. Accurate, yes, velocity-no. What kind of trajectory did you have? If sighted in at 100 yd what was trajectory at 40, 50, 60 yds? You were probably shooting a rainbow. My $.02 10 ga

[semisane]

Get yourself some Speer 250 grain Gold Dots (now called "Deepcurl") and Harvester H5045SB sabots. The bullets look like this: www.speer-bullets.com/ballistics/detail.aspx?id=211

Your 100 yard groups may be an inch or two larger, but you'll never have bullet performance problems at any range.

[mountainam]

Ambush, I second 10ga. Every head to head test I've studied showed AP is the worst of them all. I got sucked in to the hype and would never use it again. Try your bullet with 120 grs T7 FFFG and you'll see a big difference in performance. A lot of those CVA's don't group well unless you're using those squirrel loads I see the guys using on the other sites. I'd never use less than 120 grs of T7 or black powder or BH209 for big game. If your CVA won't shoot the heavy loads lose it and please read on. The guys on this site are on the cutting edge and you'll learn volumes. Good Luck.

[Deleted]

Try a CVA Slick Load Sabot. These have a soft lead core bullet like a powerbelt platinum and shoot awesome in my Accura and Optima with JSG and American Pioneer. Expansion is excellent at 100 yards with 90gr.

Never use less than 120gr bh209 or T7 on big game? LOL wow....... And to think we were killing game hundreds of years ago with a simple patched round ball and small bore muzzle loaders.

Dont get caught up in the Magnum hype, its just a load of crap so you use up more powder and get abused behind the rifle. American Pioneer just laughs at that and says, Hey if they want to take the abuse, feel free to do so, we'll sell it to you. Hodgdon in their booklet recommends that you DO NOT use more than 2 pellets ( 100gr max)

Most rifles dont do well with mag loads simply because its to much powder. My Accura though will shoot mag loads really well but the recoil is something that i dont like, just ask the big bump on my nose. An accidental 180gr charge and 600grs worth of bullets ( double load) hurt like a MOFO!

Heres those SlickLoad Sabots. They actually load easier than a powerbelt which i really enjoy.

[ambush]

Thanks guys my bullet was 2" high at hundred and dead on at 150. I was using loose powder and cva recomends no more than 100 grains loose 150 pellet. So I don't think it was lack of velocity. The first shot did exit. I will post pic tomorrow of the second bullet.

[Deleted]

The SST has a history of going straight through animals without expanding.

I'd go with an all copper hollow point, Barnes/Thor or pure lead.

[vdrow]

hi new to this forum looks like a good one speaking of cva accura i have a friend that just bought one and read in the owners manual about thier reccomended charges i told him about the bh 209 and that i was shooting 110 -120 grains through my encore with good results he's wondering if he could shoot that much through his cva i didn't have the answer maybe you guys could tell me thanks

[swampman]

In a CVA I wouldn't use over 80 grains.

[Deleted]

dont listen to swampman, he starts this on every forum. Stick to your sidelocks swampman


110-120gr BH209 has never been accurate in my Accura. Ive always got great results of 100 grains and below with conicals. I dont get to shoto sabots much due to our laws. But yes, he could use the 110-120gr charges. The recoil though sucks.

[vdrow]

Thanks for the info frontiergander i'll relay the info to him tomarrow.

[vdrow]

Ive got a question for myself this time now that we can use powered scopes in WI i'm planning on getting a bushnell DOA 250 i was wondering what would be a good set of mounts and rings that wouldn't break the bank ie........... TC maxima mounts $45 and rings $47 ouch thats over half the price of the scope any other good one out there that fit an Encore and are reasonably priced

[Deleted]

I use these on my a couple of my rifles,
www.bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=466

[Al]

Sept 12, 2010 22:02:48 GMT -5 frontiergander said:

I use these on my a couple of my rifles,
www.bellmtcs.com/store/index.php?cid=466

these are good mounts and rings, I have them on 3-4 different guns, decent price too.

[vdrow]

thanks good to hear my buddy just bought a set of those over the weekend for $30 complete so i was going to look into them saves me time looking up reviews on the net

[rangeball]

My buddy ordered the one piece direct from BPI. They sent him a DVD instead