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Post by huntingmike on Apr 28, 2010 19:49:23 GMT -5
We had a cool morning this morning (40*) and I wanted to see where the first shot out of a cold barrel would hit. I had worked up the load of Win 209, 46gr of 5744, BCR, and knurled BO back in March. It was very accurate after several shots. I had moved to 200 yards and fired 2 shots. I then had to quit. The gun is sighted in at 2" high at 100 yards. At 200 yards it is 7" low. Today I covered the previous shots in March with a shoot and see dot. At 200 yards the first shot was 7" low touching the center line of target the second shot was 1/2" left and slightly low of the first shot. When I looked at the back of the shoot and see, there were three holes touching and the fourth less than an 1/2" away. I know there had to be luck involved to put 4 shots at a total of less than an inch apart at 200 yards from two different shooting sessions but I like it ;D
I have my load where I want it. I am done! ;D
Thanks to all who have helped me in my quest to get a super accurate reliable load.
Mike
PS The sabot petals all get blown off but it does not matter !
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Post by tar12 on Apr 28, 2010 21:03:37 GMT -5
It was not luck Mike.5744 and 300 grn bullets have a great history with me.When I started out with the Savage I shot nothing but 5744 and 300 grn bullets and they all shot extremely well,to the point of being boring.If the speed bug does not bite you,you are done!
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Post by boarhog on Apr 28, 2010 23:46:11 GMT -5
Sounds like some pretty good shooting! A combo of hard work, good help, better than average shooting skills, and maybe a tiny bit of luck! If I were the jealous type, I would be! LOL
I just started working with 5744 recently in two 50s. Had some fair results, and some bad. I plan to bump the charge to 46 gr next session. I have also been knurling 300 gr bullets for a tighter fit. Mostely Remingtons, but I've knurled up a few BOs to try.
Did you happen to chrono your loads? I am curious as to the speed?
Boarhog
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Post by tar12 on Apr 29, 2010 5:07:15 GMT -5
Sounds like some pretty good shooting! A combo of hard work, good help, better than average shooting skills, and maybe a tiny bit of luck! If I were the jealous type, I would be! LOL I just started working with 5744 recently in two 50s. Had some fair results, and some bad. I plan to bump the charge to 46 gr next session. I have also been knurling 300 gr bullets for a tighter fit. Mostely Remingtons, but I've knurled up a few BOs to try. Did you happen to chrono your loads? I am curious as to the speed? Boarhog 1950-2000 would be my guess. |
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Post by huntingmike on Apr 29, 2010 7:16:03 GMT -5
Sounds like some pretty good shooting! A combo of hard work, good help, better than average shooting skills, and maybe a tiny bit of luck! If I were the jealous type, I would be! LOL I just started working with 5744 recently in two 50s. Had some fair results, and some bad. I plan to bump the charge to 46 gr next session. I have also been knurling 300 gr bullets for a tighter fit. Mostely Remingtons, but I've knurled up a few BOs to try. Did you happen to chrono your loads? I am curious as to the speed? Boarhog I do not have a chrono.  To me accuracy is more important. My Leica range finder will help with my POA. Mike |
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Post by Jed on Apr 29, 2010 8:35:25 GMT -5
Mike, that's great! Gives you some good confidence in the field too! Like you, I've also found AA5744 to be very accurate in my .50 cal, with both 250 gr and 300 gr bullets.
Just curious, you mentioned a rangefinder...do you use it in conjunction with a BDC-type reticle or with a standard duplex reticle?
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Post by Richard on Apr 29, 2010 15:49:39 GMT -5
Mike..........That load and your rifle are definitely a keeper! Too bad all Savage barrels will not do that. Richard |
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Post by huntingmike on Apr 29, 2010 19:03:08 GMT -5
Mike, that's great! Gives you some good confidence in the field too! Like you, I've also found AA5744 to be very accurate in my .50 cal, with both 250 gr and 300 gr bullets. Just curious, you mentioned a rangefinder...do you use it in conjunction with a BDC-type reticle or with a standard duplex reticle? I use it with a duplex reticle 3X10X50. The tip of the bottom post should be close to 250 yards. I will check it before deer season starts to be sure. I will also try to see what hold over is required at 300 yards. Thanks to all for the kind words. Smokeless is the way to go ! Mike |
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Post by tar12 on Apr 29, 2010 20:36:33 GMT -5
Mike, that's great! Gives you some good confidence in the field too! Like you, I've also found AA5744 to be very accurate in my .50 cal, with both 250 gr and 300 gr bullets. Just curious, you mentioned a rangefinder...do you use it in conjunction with a BDC-type reticle or with a standard duplex reticle? I use it with a duplex reticle 3X10X50. The tip of the bottom post should be close to 250 yards. I will check it before deer season starts to be sure. I will also try to see what hold over is required at 300 yards. Thanks to all for the kind words. Smokeless is the way to go ! Mike[/quote If memory serves me correctly theres 48 in plus of drop @300 and not very accurate. |
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Post by zakjak221 on Apr 30, 2010 18:57:49 GMT -5
Mike,
I've used 5744 for the last two years for deer season and have been pleased with results.
Load is 45 gr with harv. BCR sabot/300 Rem. and CCI primers.
Most of the distances are 100-190 yds tops.
As said before-it's not a speed demon but it works well in many weather conditions and is reliable.
My shots have been pass thru's with deer only going about 20-30 yds. Blood trails are there, but you don't need em.
Mark ;D
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Post by huntingmike on May 1, 2010 7:13:46 GMT -5
Mike, I've used 5744 for the last two years for deer season and have been pleased with results. Load is 45 gr with harv. BCR sabot/300 Rem. and CCI primers. Most of the distances are 100-190 yds tops. As said before-it's not a speed demon but it works well in many weather conditions and is reliable. My shots have been pass thru's with deer only going about 20-30 yds. Blood trails are there, but you don't need em. Not needing a blood trail is the way I ike it ! ;D Mike |
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Post by deadon on May 1, 2010 15:43:36 GMT -5
Mike, Have you shot any 250 gr bullets with that load? I was wondering about the difference in kick, Rusty
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Post by huntingmike on May 2, 2010 7:36:57 GMT -5
Rusty,
I have one of those barrels that is a little larger than most. I had to go to the BCR and BO to get a tight 2 handed fit. I tried the RCR for 250 gr as well as other sabots for xtps and other bullets. Nothing works for accuracy in my gun as well as the BO and BCR.
I have been selling off the extras I have tried to different friends and to some on the board. I sure went through a lot of different powder, sabots and bullets. I did not know this obsession with the 10MLII was going to cost so much but I think it was worth it. ;D
Mike
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Post by songdog on May 24, 2010 12:36:16 GMT -5
Mike, Have you shot any 250 gr bullets with that load? I was wondering about the difference in kick, Rusty Deadon, I am shooting 44 gr. of 5744 with the 250 XTP and I love it! I shot the 300 XTP and the recoil was causing my scope to move in it's rings....and it was TIGHT. Some had good suggestions as to stopping the scope movement, but I opted to reduce the bullet weight and I am happy I did. Great accuracy with less kick! 1-3/8" group at 200 yds. Good enough for me!!! |
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