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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2009 16:08:42 GMT -5
This question is for all you .45 Pac-Nor shooters. What is your favorite powder and bullet load combo? Sabotless and saboted loads/ single powder and duplex. What speed and accuracy do you get with each of your favorites? I'm a johnny come lately to this .45 business. Hopefully I'll be shooting mine by the middle of February. I've learned a long time ago to take advantage of all the good info that is available on this board.  Thanks guys, Zen |
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Post by shooter on Dec 30, 2009 17:50:13 GMT -5
Panhandle,I have 2 favorite loads. H-4198 60gr with 195 barrens and a light blue harvester.Ave velocity is around 2650fps shoot MOA to 200yrd and stay inside 4inches at 300yards On A Calm Day And i do my part. H-4198 60gr with a 200gr SST.with a light blue harvester sabot.Ave velocity is around 2650 fps This load shoot MOA out to 300yards. On A Calm Day And i do my part. I have been knurling a few of the barrens.I got my best group at 100 yards by knurling.I have not go to test them anymore since season is still in. Note. I have one of Rb reaccessed vent-liner. Note.When I go to the range to shoot.My Goal is to shoot inside 6inches at 300yards that all my expectation are. |
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Post by smokeless77 on Dec 31, 2009 0:24:43 GMT -5
Shooter, would you use the same load in a 28" barrel or would you change it.
Thanks john
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Post by shooter on Dec 31, 2009 9:16:07 GMT -5
Shooter, would you use the same load in a 28" barrel or would you change it. Thanks john I would try the same Load with a 28inch barrel.I would also try powder like the 2015 in a 28 inch barrel. |
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Post by deadeye on Dec 31, 2009 10:24:49 GMT -5
pac #1-54.42gns h4198/2420fps/26''fluted w parker 275be/w/woolwad/.5moa,/////pac#2 -55.46gns h4198/2420fps/26''fluted w parker 275be/w/woolwad/.6moa. both are 500yd guns in near perfect conditions, both shoot much better dirty
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Post by rangeball on Dec 31, 2009 10:38:56 GMT -5
Deadeye, how did you arrive at such precise grain measurements? What increments did you test in?
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Post by dave d. on Dec 31, 2009 10:44:41 GMT -5
:)i have shot a ton of loads but my favorite powder by far is h-4198 from 58 to 63grs with a 195bx in a light blue Harvestor.it doesn't get any easier...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 31, 2009 11:02:20 GMT -5
:)i have shot a ton of loads but my favorite powder by far is h-4198 from 58 to 63grs with a 195bx in a light blue Harvestor.it doesn't get any easier... I like easy also. I've got a couple pounds of H4198. I've also got some 4759, N110, 5744 to try a few duplex combos. Thanks guys for your favorites. Zen |
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Post by rexxer on Dec 31, 2009 12:07:24 GMT -5
12/47 4759/2015 with a 275 Parker BE or Barnes 275xpb with a lubed wool wadd Either load is sub moa I too have a bunch of new recipes to try out this spring!  |
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Post by deadeye on Dec 31, 2009 12:21:32 GMT -5
Deadeye, how did you arrive at such precise grain measurements? What increments did you test in? rangeball- i started w.5 increments reducing to .1/just so happened those listed locked in very well. my scale is 'denver instruments". in cf i have always weighed to the hundreth of a grain,sometimes it matters,sometimes not. something i have found very interesting is when i go to the 4-6drop followed by a dry patch/both barrels open up to approx 1.8moa, this cleaning method might work also but i suspect i would have to knurl a little extra ,others have found great success but it not worth it to me when getting this kind of success & especially es of 4fps |
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Post by Dave W on Dec 31, 2009 12:29:21 GMT -5
Deadeye, how did you arrive at such precise grain measurements? What increments did you test in? rangeball- i started w.5 increments reducing to .1/just so happened those listed locked in very well. my scale is 'denver instruments". in cf i have always weighed to the hundreth of a grain,sometimes it matters,sometimes not. something i have found very interesting is when i go to the 4-6drop followed by a dry patch/both barrels open up to approx 1.8moa, this cleaning method might work also but i suspect i would have to knurl a little extra ,others have found great success but it not worth it to me when getting this kind of success & especially es of 4fps I know you do a lot of shooting and you are hunting in temps similar to what we get. How much of a difference in velocity are you getting in summertime temps versus hunting temps if you have timed in both? Thanks |
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Post by rangeball on Dec 31, 2009 12:36:23 GMT -5
Deadeye, how did you arrive at such precise grain measurements? What increments did you test in? rangeball- i started w.5 increments reducing to .1/just so happened those listed locked in very well. my scale is 'denver instruments". in cf i have always weighed to the hundreth of a grain,sometimes it matters,sometimes not. something i have found very interesting is when i go to the 4-6drop followed by a dry patch/both barrels open up to approx 1.8moa, this cleaning method might work also but i suspect i would have to knurl a little extra ,others have found great success but it not worth it to me when getting this kind of success & especially es of 4fps Thanks a bunch. I was curious as it seemed to go along with the info posted recently about optimal charge weight and finding the exact point where you're load shot best. Since we often see people jump in grain increments, I wondered if we were missing anything by not going in much smaller jumps. |
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Post by deadeye on Dec 31, 2009 14:39:53 GMT -5
dave w- thats a good question@ 2420fps was in the 60 temp range,i will do a few this weekend & let you know,today is 34,temps will drop here the next few days,good time for this test! /////* rangeball -i should have included -example,one load of 56gn posted approx 1''gr@ 100,kept getting better while dropping .1@ each load,then @ 55.6 approx .8moa,next weighing was just @55.46 ,just threw that one in & put 8 consective shots in a bughole,did drop to 55.3-group opened up slightly so thats how i came across the sweet spot,ironically both barrels clocked 2420,it might just be @ the perfect harmonic's of my barrel&set-up
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Post by Richard on Dec 31, 2009 17:06:15 GMT -5
My favorite load would be N-110 under N-130 with the combination equaling around 70 gr. total weight.............15/55, 16/56, 17/55. These loads utilizing a Barnes 195 or 200 SST will put me in the 2900 fps range with sub moa for five shots at 100 to 300 yards. This of course with proper gun handling, a good "high(er) power scope and decent weather conditions! A fast, accurate bullet with a high BC will deflect less at long distances than a slow accurate low BC bullet.
Richard
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Post by KerryB on Dec 31, 2009 21:20:16 GMT -5
:)i have shot a ton of loads but my favorite powder by far is h-4198 from 58 to 63grs with a 195bx in a light blue Harvestor.it doesn't get any easier... I agree 100% and would add that i also like the 200SST or 200XTP with the same powder and sabots. There are nearly too many excellent loads for .45's to decide which one is actually the best! ;D ;D Hey, this is turning into an excellent thread for all of the .45 shooters out there! Maybe a good candidate to add to the "Load Info" sub-board? |
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Post by super91 on Jan 3, 2010 20:35:41 GMT -5
57.7 grains IMR 4198 with a Hornaday 300 grain XTP mag sabotless with a .060 Walters Wad between the powder and bullet. Super accurate for my setup and a joy to shoot. Getting around 2500 +/- fps in 65 degree temps. Have not chrono'd in lower temps.
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Post by boarhog on Jan 4, 2010 0:38:44 GMT -5
Richard,
What would your suggested starting load be using the N-110/N-130 duplex? I know you worked up to the 2900+ fps.
Boarhog
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Post by Chris Champion on Jan 4, 2010 12:51:58 GMT -5
62g H4198 with 195g Barnes and Lt. Blue Harvester = Sub MOA out to 300 yds and 2740 fps.
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Post by rangeball on Jan 4, 2010 13:53:53 GMT -5
rangeball -i should have included -example,one load of 56gn posted approx 1''gr@ 100,kept getting better while dropping .1@ each load,then @ 55.6 approx .8moa,next weighing was just @55.46 ,just threw that one in & put 8 consective shots in a bughole,did drop to 55.3-group opened up slightly so thats how i came across the sweet spot,ironically both barrels clocked 2420,it might just be @ the perfect harmonic's of my barrel&set-up Very interesting... thanks That's the basic premise of the optimal charge method, find the charge that the shock wave travels to the muzzle then back to the breech so the bullets exit the muzzle when it's least disrupted. |
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