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Post by jims on Jan 28, 2009 14:41:33 GMT -5
I just received my Barnes Triple-Shock x-bullets, they appear to be all copper. Has anyone used them in smokeless muzzleloading or even centerfire? How have they performed. I plan to use them in my .375 smokeless barrel in a sabotless application. They are 1.37 inchces long in 9.3mm. If chilled I think they will go through the barrel but just asking how they have worked for you and in what applications. I am asking accuracy, game performance etc. I know a number of you are high on the Barnes Originals, are all their bullets but specifically this one considered as quality bullets for use in the field?
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Post by rangeball on Jan 28, 2009 15:02:58 GMT -5
I've not used that particular bullet, but everything I have ever shot with their all copper X type bullets, like the MZs, have performed fantastically terminally. Opened exactly like all the pictures show. I've also seen reports from others with recovered bullets and they all are fully opened with devastating performance.
They are my favorite on game bullet.
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Post by dave d. on Jan 28, 2009 16:03:45 GMT -5
:)jim i shot some out of a .25wssm ar and they were very accurate but didn't get to shoot game with them.the 195bx in my .45 is awsome both on paper and game.i didn't have much luck with them sabotless in my .40 but to tell you the truth i didn't spend alot of time with them in the .40 either.if you can get them to fly they will kill deer dead ;D.goodluck
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Post by encoreguy on Jan 28, 2009 16:37:28 GMT -5
I have shot the 300 grain .458 X bullets in my .50 ML-II with inconsistent results. Groups around 1 1/2 to 2" at 100. I would shoot 2 and they would cut in the same hole then I would get a flier every time. I really think to get them to shoot well you need to push the speed / pressure and the sabot would be the weak link. I did not try to push them beyond 2350 fps so I might try them a little faster to see. If I knew that they would shoot moa at 200 with good speed sabotless in a pacnor, I would order one right away. It is a great bullet. I think softening the bullet, which is fairly easy to do, would help its accuracy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2009 16:50:22 GMT -5
The x bullets are stellar killers, its all I shoot in centerfires...Bill
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Post by chuck41 on Jan 28, 2009 17:08:20 GMT -5
Sure would like to hear about your experience with them. In other sizes everyone says they are fantastic.
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Post by chapmangleason on Jan 28, 2009 17:35:42 GMT -5
I just received my Barnes Triple-Shock x-bullets, they appear to be all copper. Has anyone used them in smokeless muzzleloading or even centerfire? How have they performed. I plan to use them in my .375 smokeless barrel in a sabotless application. They are 1.37 inchces long in 9.3mm. If chilled I think they will go through the barrel but just asking how they have worked for you and in what applications. I am asking accuracy, game performance etc. I know a number of you are high on the Barnes Originals, are all their bullets but specifically this one considered as quality bullets for use in the field? I have shot the 45/70 X bullet called the FlatNose Barnes part Number 45843 out of a Savage with a CR sabot and 44g of 5744 and got this result: www.the-gleasons.com/Barnes%20Origonal%20300g%20CR%20Sabot%2066g%204198%20Federal%20Primer_03-29-08_1342_GOOD_LOAD.pdfIt has the same huge cavity as the Barnes MZ 300g ML bullet, which I used this year in my Omega during MLer season. Took two deer with it on opening day. Boom and dead within 20 yards on 1 and boom flop on the other. I plan on shooting the 45843 next season in my Savage with 5744, I don't need the power of 4198 and it kills my shoulder. Shooting 5744 is sweet on my shoulder and the bullet does the killing. Bottom line, I like this bullet for back east woods hunting and the BO for bean fields, long range shooting. The Barnes is one of the best for Terminal Performance. Best Wishes, Chap
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Post by dans on Jan 28, 2009 17:42:08 GMT -5
I shot a small doe quartering away with the 300 gr. 458 x bullet and it landed behind the last rib on the right side and exited the far shoulder. It blew about a 50 cent size exit hole. The load was 45 grains of 5744 in my original Ml10. I shot this deer as it ran by with its broken lower jaw hanging down. It went about 10 yards before piling up. The range was maybe 15 yards so the velocity was about 18-1900 F/S. These bullets are supposed to expand down to 1600 f/s. This one did.
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Post by youp50 on Jan 28, 2009 18:22:25 GMT -5
257 caliber 100 gr at 3200 fps. First buck I ever shot with it reared up and flopped over. Killed quite a few with the 25, it is accurate in my rifle. Barnes usually do best with a pretty good start before the hit the rifling.
7mm-08 140 grain TSX over some Varget, without looking I am fairly certain it in the neighbor hood of 2750 fps. Kills them dead. Another very accurate load in my 'wifes' rifle.
150 gr tsx over some WW 748. Same ballpark velocity as above. Tips them over up to elk.
I have never recovered a single bullet. I did have one miss ribs on the way in and pencil the first lung then open on the second. Buck was hit high and back where the lungs are small, he went maybe 300 yards. To the best of my recollection, all other game taken never made it out of eyesight.
IMO faster is better for the Barnes X class of bullets. If they just weren't so spendy.
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Post by joe21a on Jan 28, 2009 18:32:31 GMT -5
I have used them a few times in 30 cal. and they worked as claimed. They need all the speed you can give them.
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Post by lwh723 on Jan 28, 2009 21:39:15 GMT -5
I just shot five deer this past weekend with the 100 gr TSX out of my AR15 in 25WSSM probably pushing it out at around 3150. Bullet performance was not real exciting. Three of the five ran from 70-100 yards. Not the biggest deal, but I was trying to sanction a herd, and I had to keep on shooting at the runners even though they were hit. Still managed to take three out of the herd, but probably should of had 5 or 6. Damage to vitals was not real impressive either--much, much less than what I'm used to seeing with a shotgun and MZ. Exit holes were around the size of a fifty cent piece and smaller. Not terrible performance, but I'm going to try something else next deer season.
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